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Post by CookieMaster on Mar 29, 2016 13:12:58 GMT
The next one will surely feature his best enemy? They were on about a few more appearances this year. Who would you cast? Beevers? Maybe even an pre-Zombeevers Beevers? someone to mimic Delgado? I really don't know, both recasting and regenerating both have their merits. I suppose that, to mirror Treloar's Third Doctor, a recasting may be more preferable. I also think that if there was a way to have Delgado be there, yet not be there (a lá Chris Finney and David Garfield) we'd be getting the best of both worlds, but i understand how hard that is to implement. They did manage it originally in Terror of the Autons with that Norman Stanley chap, but that was quite brief and stretching that over an entire story would be difficult. I suppose though, it's not impossible to imagine the Doctor being duped by someone, only for that person to disappear into a computer bank at the end of the story and we'd hear the familiar demat sounds. Maybe a menacing chuckle reminiscent of Delgado's Master as they skulked away.
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Post by CookieMaster on Mar 29, 2016 13:16:13 GMT
Wasn't he exterminated by Davros and the Dalekmunks before becoming a snot snake and then Eric Roberts? Now I need to hear Daleks singing pop songs. Well yes, but we've no idea how he got there. They ould do a whole series of stories with the Tipple Master (which sounds absolutely rubbish as a title) Tipple really enjoys gruesome deaths, perhaps we could have him as the Beevers Master's first Deathworm host? I'm sure Gordon could make all the appropriate blood-curdling screams of pain and agony, he did it enough times in the X Files.
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Post by constonks on Mar 29, 2016 13:19:55 GMT
I'm all for recasting as long as it's done well, no matter who it is or how long they've been gone. As much as we all love Nick Courtney, a well-done Brigadier impersonation would be fine with me. Same with Delgado's Master. I guess I just think recasting is more of a tribute (we need more stories with the characters they created so well!) than a crass money grab.
Although when I say well-done, I mean on an Eliot Chapman level. But there just has to be a good actor out there who's been impersonating Courtney and Delgado for ages.
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Post by barnabaslives on Mar 29, 2016 13:29:03 GMT
Pretty sure I would be okay if they didn't try to recast the Brig or the Master. I think I'd be more for 3rd Doctor stories with baddies he hasn't met before, or at least so often. Still really hoping for a Cyberman story with Tim Treloar.
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Post by typeforty on Mar 29, 2016 13:35:41 GMT
There's been no news at all regarding the future of The Third Doctor. All we know is that future stories won't feature narration. Any ideas on what's going on? I mean even Churchill is getting a volume two so what about The Third Doctor? I'm not dissing Churchill because I haven't heard it yet but I did not expect a second volume so soon. So where's the Third Doctor then? The biggest reason you're hearing much more about the New Series audios is a return on the investment. With a small company like BF, they devoted serious resources to proving to TPTB that they could justify getting the license.. so all their output needs to be focused on recovering that investment and money/manpower. I wouldn't expect much of anything in terms of new classic ranges until the fall.. that gives them nearly a solid year of product to show that they can sustain both new and old.
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Post by icecreamdf on Mar 29, 2016 14:34:01 GMT
Since they already recast the Doctor, I think they might as well recast the Brigadier and the Delgado Master. You really can't represent the Third Doctor era without the Brig.
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Post by apdalek22 on Mar 29, 2016 16:17:47 GMT
Since they already recast the Doctor, I think they might as well recast the Brigadier and the Delgado Master. You really can't represent the Third Doctor era without the Brig. What about Sarah Jane?
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Post by dastari on Mar 29, 2016 17:21:28 GMT
At Chicago TARDIS last year, I had a chance to talk to Jason Haigh-Ellery and he indicated that they were in discussions with John Levine who was also at the con in the hopes that they could get him for the next set of Third Doctor Adventures.
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Post by dasmaniac on Mar 29, 2016 17:33:16 GMT
Big Finish could recast the Delgado Master but it'd be easier just to regenerate him. They could regenerate him into either a new incarnation or into a pre-disfigured Beevers Master. As for the Brigadier though, there's just no way around recasting the role. He is such an integral part of The Third Doctor era.
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Post by apdalek22 on Mar 29, 2016 19:12:15 GMT
I really wish they would do more with the third doctor, i know its hard due to most of the cast of that era passing on but he is the only doctor without some kind of running series. Im new to the era of the first 3 doctor's so the more the better
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Post by icecreamdf on Mar 29, 2016 19:55:46 GMT
Since they already recast the Doctor, I think they might as well recast the Brigadier and the Delgado Master. You really can't represent the Third Doctor era without the Brig. What about Sarah Jane? I don't think there's really any reason to as long as Katy Manning is still around, but I wouldn't be against it. If they did recast Sarah though, it would be nice if they also included her in the Fourth Doctor Adventures, and created a Sarah Jane Adventures range.
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Post by aztec on Mar 29, 2016 20:34:24 GMT
Since they already recast the Doctor, I think they might as well recast the Brigadier and the Delgado Master. You really can't represent the Third Doctor era without the Brig. What about Sarah Jane? I don't follow the 3rd Dr audios, but i.m.o The Brig and Degrado Master are arguably more integral to the 3rd Doctor era than Sarah Jane was (I consider Sarah Jane a 4th Doctor companion first and foremost), you can do 3rd Doctor stories without them, but it's a little limiting (though I suppose this also opens the 3rd Doctor era up to more UNIT-less stories, however as Katy Manning is still hale and hearty, recasting one or the other (I'd personally be open to it, depending on how accurate the new actor is/how often they use them) in concert with retaining Manning/Franklin, even Levene if they can persuade him, would probably make the story feel more official to those somewhat opposed to recasts, a completely recast cast, given Sladen's passing only five years ago would just feel a little too soon to me, maybe they could do some Sarah Jane short trips.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 29, 2016 21:44:55 GMT
If we have the Master, have him be a pre-zombie Beevers, naybe even play up the new face bit and have him pretend to be another Time Lord. Toby Longworth's got the sort of vocal skill that could produce a Nick Courtney impression.
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Post by icecreamdf on Mar 29, 2016 22:09:59 GMT
If we have the Master, have him be a pre-zombie Beevers, naybe even play up the new face bit and have him pretend to be another Time Lord. Toby Longworth's got the sort of vocal skill that could produce a Nick Courtney impression. Based on Mastermind, I sort of assumed that there was no pre-Zombie Beevers. If you take away any Master's body, than zombie-Beevers is what's left.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 29, 2016 22:41:05 GMT
Deadly Assassin suggests that the decayed form is what happens when you force a regeneration past the thirteenth body, but it could just as easily be the Master in his thirteenth body refusing to die and just rotting. So if that's the case, then there was a Pratt/Beevers Master who wasn't a cadaver, he just ended up that way eventually.
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Post by icecreamdf on Mar 30, 2016 0:09:17 GMT
Deadly Assassin suggests that the decayed form is what happens when you force a regeneration past the thirteenth body, but it could just as easily be the Master in his thirteenth body refusing to die and just rotting. So if that's the case, then there was a Pratt/Beevers Master who wasn't a cadaver, he just ended up that way eventually. But then why would he have gone back to being Beevers after he lost Bruce's body?
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Post by elkawho on Mar 30, 2016 0:18:59 GMT
I don't think there's really any reason to as long as Katy Manning is still around, but I wouldn't be against it. If they did recast Sarah though, it would be nice if they also included her in the Fourth Doctor Adventures, and created a Sarah Jane Adventures range. I agree with you about adding a recast Sarah Jane into the Fourth Doctor Adventures, but I don't know if there would be much interest in a SJA range without Liz Sladen. But I agree with your initial point; there's no need to have Sarah Jane in a Third Doctor series.
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Post by apdalek22 on Mar 30, 2016 1:19:19 GMT
I don't think there's really any reason to as long as Katy Manning is still around, but I wouldn't be against it. If they did recast Sarah though, it would be nice if they also included her in the Fourth Doctor Adventures, and created a Sarah Jane Adventures range. I agree with you about adding a recast Sarah Jane into the Fourth Doctor Adventures, but I don't know if there would be much interest in a SJA range without Liz Sladen. But I agree with your initial point; there's no need to have Sarah Jane in a Third Doctor series. Im new to that era im new to classic who through BF only the last year. I havent seen or listened to anythong from the first 3 doctors yet, i just thought sarah jane started as a companion to 3
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Post by elkawho on Mar 30, 2016 1:50:10 GMT
I agree with you about adding a recast Sarah Jane into the Fourth Doctor Adventures, but I don't know if there would be much interest in a SJA range without Liz Sladen. But I agree with your initial point; there's no need to have Sarah Jane in a Third Doctor series. Im new to that era im new to classic who through BF only the last year. I havent seen or listened to anythong from the first 3 doctors yet, i just thought sarah jane started as a companion to 3 You are absolutely correct. Sarah Jane did start as a companion to Three. I did not man to imply that you were wrong. But I just don't believe she is as integral to Three's era as Jo and The Brigadier. Welcome to Classic Who and Big Finish! I've only been listening to BF for a little over 2 years, although there are some on here that have been with them since the beginning. When I started listening, I had seen only 2 or 3 Classic stories, but since then I have seen most of the classic stories and spent a small fortune on BF. So strap in, surrender your wallet, and enjoy the ride.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 5:25:47 GMT
Deadly Assassin suggests that the decayed form is what happens when you force a regeneration past the thirteenth body, but it could just as easily be the Master in his thirteenth body refusing to die and just rotting. So if that's the case, then there was a Pratt/Beevers Master who wasn't a cadaver, he just ended up that way eventually. But then why would he have gone back to being Beevers after he lost Bruce's body? no, I never thought that was very well explained either.
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