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Post by charlesuirdhein on Mar 6, 2017 0:21:44 GMT
Yes, two clips of McCoy, being from two stories. And that's the TV dept finding suitable clips rather than 7 appearing twice. If everyone wants to think he appeared twice then they're free to do so. Taking bits of the TV series and assigning them to books? I literally don't know what you are talking about because I have never done that, ever. Er.... you appeared to deny that the 7th Doctor was present twice on the grounds that you don't count the books. I take it that that wasn't what you were driving at, then? Just re read the thread. I had a post that I thought I'd edited but had deleted instead that would have made sense of that! So, for what it's worth you are reading it correctly but I hadn't meant it that way! I had a ramble about the two faces of 7 and then a ramble about the books, sorry!
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Post by ollychops on Mar 6, 2017 1:55:15 GMT
I'd shrugged off Twelve getting involved until it started being debated in this thread and now all this who-remembers-what business is making my head hurt. I think I'm just going to go back to shrugging it off...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 11:28:15 GMT
I think I'm just going to go back to shrugging it off... Yep, shrugging it off works for me!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 13:39:43 GMT
The Doctor's memory has always been a fickle thing anyway. Any memory problems for incarnations post-Time War being unable to remember anything from their first seven lives can be easily resolved with, well, the Eighth Doctor's unfortunate habit of suffering significant bouts of amnesia at various important turning points in his life. That and good ol' fashioned forgetfulness/remembrance brought about by regenerative shock or just standard wear and tear.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 6, 2017 15:34:23 GMT
All this 12 meeting 11 stuff and who remembers what… I can't be the first one to think it doesn't matter, right? Most of the casual audience won't care. It's only us Whovians who give a ****.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Mar 6, 2017 16:45:57 GMT
Well, it's a fun thing to analyse really, rather than it actually "mattering". I remember being pleased when the full complement of Doctors appeared to save Gallifrey, and then the Eyebrows turning up put a cherry on it. I wasn't particularly bothered then about the ramifications of the continuity, considering the snarl of th Time War and time locking et cetera. This is just entertaining what ifs and whys.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 6, 2017 19:05:02 GMT
All this 12 meeting 11 stuff and who remembers what… I can't be the first one to think it doesn't matter, right? Most of the casual audience won't care. It's only us Whovians who give a ****. But, its the hardcore fans that find the continuity faults.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Mar 6, 2017 21:17:49 GMT
Most of the casual audience won't care. It's only us Whovians who give a ****. But, its the hardcore fans that find the continuity faults. That's part of the fun of BEING a hardcore fan
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 6, 2017 22:13:53 GMT
But, its the hardcore fans that find the continuity faults. That's part of the fun of BEING a hardcore fan Well, they invest so much time and passion. Hardcore fans deserve correct continuity!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 6, 2017 23:14:23 GMT
Most of the casual audience won't care. It's only us Whovians who give a ****. But, its the hardcore fans that find the continuity faults. But we're not important in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 6, 2017 23:44:21 GMT
Most of the casual audience won't care. It's only us Whovians who give a ****. But, its the hardcore fans that find the continuity faults. Continuity faults have always been a part of Who. So long as they don't get in the way of the story it's fine. Theorising about them is part of the fun of being a fan.
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Post by icecreamdf on Mar 9, 2017 0:39:11 GMT
That's part of the fun of BEING a hardcore fan Well, they invest so much time and passion. Hardcore fans deserve correct continuity! We don't deserve shit. We're lucky to even be getting the show, and for it to be of such high quality.
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Post by barnabaslives on Mar 9, 2017 2:38:02 GMT
The Doctor's memory has always been a fickle thing anyway. Any memory problems for incarnations post-Time War being unable to remember anything from their first seven lives can be easily resolved with, well, the Eighth Doctor's unfortunate habit of suffering significant bouts of amnesia at various important turning points in his life. That and good ol' fashioned forgetfulness/remembrance brought about by regenerative shock or just standard wear and tear. I myself certainly wouldn't recommend being uploaded into the Gallifreyan matrix, getting hit with a Time Disruptor, confronting the Silents, kissing River Song, and sharing a drink with a member of Torchwood all in the same day if you expect to keep your own continuity straight. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 3:18:44 GMT
The Doctor's memory has always been a fickle thing anyway. Any memory problems for incarnations post-Time War being unable to remember anything from their first seven lives can be easily resolved with, well, the Eighth Doctor's unfortunate habit of suffering significant bouts of amnesia at various important turning points in his life. That and good ol' fashioned forgetfulness/remembrance brought about by regenerative shock or just standard wear and tear. I myself certainly wouldn't recommend being uploaded into the Gallifreyan matrix, getting hit with a Time Disruptor, confronting the Silents, kissing River Song, and sharing a drink with a member of Torchwood all in the same day if you expect to keep your own continuity straight. :-) Well, as the Shift said to the Doctor in Alien Bodies -- "There have been so many alien ideas bouncing around your head, I’m not surprised you’re hearing voices. Your synapses are in a mess, believe me."
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Mar 9, 2017 12:58:38 GMT
Ive read a couple of short stories in Seasons of War (It arrived yesterday and I had to read some of it) and one of them does answer the question of How it affected Nine's mind
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 21:29:56 GMT
Ive read a couple of short stories in Seasons of War (It arrived yesterday and I had to read some of it) and one of them does answer the question of How it affected Nine's mind Isn't Seasons of War fan fiction? In which case it's probably better to say it presents a theory about it.
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Post by doctorkernow on Mar 9, 2017 22:09:23 GMT
Hello again I'm beginning to wish I'd never started all this. Any chance we can just say Nine still thinks Gallifrey burned? Sorry folks. I had an idea for a story and wondered what would happen if Nine encountered Seven. Would he berate Seven for destroying Skaro. How would Seven respond to this. Nine would not be able to say why destroying Skaro was ultimately disastrous.The arch-manipulator meets the last Timelord soldier.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 9, 2017 22:13:22 GMT
Hello again I'm beginning to wish I'd never started all this. Any chance we can just say Nine still thinks Gallifrey burned? Sorry folks. I had an idea for a story and wondered what would happen if Nine encountered Seven. Would he berate Seven for destroying Skaro. How would Seven respond to this. Nine would not be able to say why destroying Skaro was ultimately disastrous.The arch-manipulator meets the last Timelord soldier. Set it before Remembrance!
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Post by sherlock on Mar 9, 2017 22:27:12 GMT
Hello again I'm beginning to wish I'd never started all this. Any chance we can just say Nine still thinks Gallifrey burned? Sorry folks. I had an idea for a story and wondered what would happen if Nine encountered Seven. Would he berate Seven for destroying Skaro. How would Seven respond to this. Nine would not be able to say why destroying Skaro was ultimately disastrous.The arch-manipulator meets the last Timelord soldier. All Doctors from Nine to pre-Day Eleven think Gallifrey burned. It's only post-Day Eleven and subsequent Doctors that know he didn't burn it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 9, 2017 22:43:27 GMT
Hello again I'm beginning to wish I'd never started all this. Any chance we can just say Nine still thinks Gallifrey burned? Sorry folks. I had an idea for a story and wondered what would happen if Nine encountered Seven. Would he berate Seven for destroying Skaro. How would Seven respond to this. Nine would not be able to say why destroying Skaro was ultimately disastrous.The arch-manipulator meets the last Timelord soldier. All Doctors from Nine to pre-Day Eleven think Gallifrey burned. It's only post-Day Eleven and subsequent Doctors that know he didn't burn it. It makes the RTD era pretty dark when you watch it with the knowledge that the Doctor didn't commit genocide when he believes he did.
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