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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 8, 2017 7:47:17 GMT
Unless there are rules that said lovecraftian level entities are bound by, Bill made a Vampire reference in "Pyramid..." maybe they need to be accepted in order to rule because that's the rule, that's their nature - maybe it's a work around of an imposed order from a higher authority (The Guardians or the Time Lords or Asgard or whoever), you know the sort "you can't invade worlds or we shall be terribly annoyed - terminally annoyed in your case -, but if they ask you to take over, that's fine".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 10:39:33 GMT
Unless there are rules that said Lovecraftian level entities are bound by, Bill made a Vampire reference in "Pyramid..." maybe they need to be accepted in order to rule because that's the rule, that's their nature - maybe it's a workaround of an imposed order from a higher authority (The Guardians or the Time Lords or Asgard or whoever), you know the sort "you can't invade worlds or we shall be terribly annoyed - terminally annoyed in your case -, but if they ask you to take over, that's fine". I like that expression: "terminally annoyed". That would've been a cool place to take it actually. They're pacifists by nature or conduct but compensate by poisoning the ear of whoever is vulnerable or slimy enough to believe their lies. Similar to the mutants from Beneath the Planet of the Apes. They believed themselves a peaceful, benevolent people far above violence because they get others to commit it for them. That would've been a fascinating moral grey area to delve into on the show... Who is worse? Those who spouted the lies in the first place or those who chose to believe them? There's no easy answer there. I'm kind of regretting that NuWho hasn't installed any new successors for the Guardians, although I like to think that the Endless from The Sandman or their closest equivalent have filled the gap in their absence.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 8, 2017 10:58:25 GMT
"Terminally Annoyed" I think im gonna use that in My short Trip lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 11:53:36 GMT
"Terminally Annoyed" I think im gonna use that in My short Trip lol Yeah, not going to lie -- you might see it pop up in my story too.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 9, 2017 7:16:46 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 9, 2017 7:17:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 10:50:05 GMT
So I got around to watching it and agree with everybody.
It was a beautiful piece of television. Some amazing performances, great filmography and many more positives.
It was also utter twaddle. The trailer bait regeneration was just stupid and the plot was typical of some of the high concept stuff from the last few years where an idea is turned into a story without any conception of whether it ends up making sense.
So did I like it? Well yes actually, although I do worry it's the sort of story that turns casual viewers off the programme. Here's hoping next week is a return to form.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 10, 2017 17:16:49 GMT
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Post by constonks on Jun 11, 2017 3:18:32 GMT
Finally got to this and Pyramid at the End of the World.
And uh.
Trailer bait regeneration.
Rings of Akhaten/Closing Time solution, complete with No-One Remembers The Trees from everyone's favourite Series 8 episode.
Why haven't we seen Missy in earlier episodes? If you're going to do an arc about her turning good, you have to show us the beats of the story; they can't happen off-screen. The concept of the Master being the Doctor's Hannibal Lecter has been done a bit in some UNIT stories (the fantastic Harvest of Time comes to mind) so why can't we have more of it? After all, Missy being the one in the box wasn't a surprise.
I did not care for this.
Extremis was the high point of this arc for me, but chalk it up to yet another three-parter without a solid landing. Lie of the Land, you can join The Last of the Time Lords (and most of Hell Bent) in the bin.
Actually, you know what a huge problem of these three-parters is? The episodes being treated as one-offs. Like each episode's resolution is only introduced within the episode. They're supposed to be arcs, but the solutions come out of nowhere. That has the unfortunate effect of making the first two parts seem almost entirely pointless.
I just so passionately hope that Chibnall throws a bunch of writers in a room and breaks the series down piece by piece to make sure it all fits together nicely. Too often this season has felt like it's lacking cohesion.
Anyway this has all been a bit stream of consciousness but I've never really been this negative towards any piece of Who before. Not because this is the worst I've seen. It's just... disappointing. I'm still sad that Capaldi's leaving, but as much as I've liked Moffat most of the time, we need new blood ASAP.
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Post by mark687 on Jun 12, 2017 19:16:58 GMT
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