S10E11 World Enough and Time (24/06/2017) spoilers on airing

"It would just be a twist for the sake of it"

Like Clara declaring she's the Doctor, or Capaldi faking a regeneration.

I'm not sure I believe Steven Moffat makes quite as many twists and turns as we perhaps think he does. By that, I mean, when he reveals something plotwise, its what many have suspected all along: the identity of Amy's child, for example, or Missy being in the vault. We all expect him to do something extraordinary after an impressive build-up, and then ... doesn't. I quite expected The First Doctor to be the one trapped in the vault, feeling that Missy was too obvious. That's no criticism, by the way, it's rather an answer to those who accuse his stories of being 'too complicated': the way they're set up makes us expect them to be something they actually are not - it is 'our' expectations that are too complicated, not his stories! In my view, of course.

I'd laugh if Missy turned out to be basically The Master's own personal River Song. Fandom would have a conniption.

I would bet my house on Moffat never wavering for a second that Missy is 100% The Master.

A lot of the people saying that at the start were perhaps wishing it more than believing it. Remember there were parts of fandom - dark, odd parts - who didn't believe New-Who was in continuity with the older series till things like the Journal Of Impossible Things and the pics in The Next Doctor made that position untenable. 

If I were in your situation, I'd watch it tonight AND tomorrow - and find it very difficult not to say to your friends, 'you'll never guess what happens here' every ten minutes!

That, I think, was one of the finest episodes of Doctor Who I have seen since I started loving it in 1979. Crackling dialogue, brilliant ... everything. What's the point of listing things? It was all brilliant. Give us a kiss? After watching that, I haven't the energy to give you a smile! EXCELLENT (and very, very creepy).

GREAT.

once you saw the twist, about 1 minute with that dodgy makeup job and accent (credit us with some intelligence Mr Moffat).......you were only waiting for the reveal so the episode feel empty of plot.

it was not terrible, but a bit predictable being as we knew it was Mondas from day one.

the opener with missy was a bit unnecessary, and back to pantomime again.

I will wait till I see what Simms Master is actually doing there beyond the obvious.

biggest disappointment though is next week we have the "new era" Cyberman back.

I do hope there is no reset bill.

Things that struck me as I attempt to recover from that ...

Watching the first few minutes, with Missy as the Doctor, it struck me for the first time that - yes, a female Doctor could work very well.

SO! The Doctor can be called Doctor Who. It's legitimate.

This is the scariest The Cybermen have ever been.

I originally thought the surgeon who gave Bill her 'make-over' was John Simm's Master, before I twigged about two seconds before the real reveal.

Peter C regenerating in the snow. Surely this must have some conection with (a) the Christmas Special, and (b) The Tenth Planet. I say 'surely'. I'm not sure about anything!

I agree with The Matt above that I'm slightly disappointed the nu-Cybermen are back next week - although knowing the truth about their origins now casts a new terrible, melancholic shadow over them all, whichever version.

I cannot believe what happened to Bill. There's a possibility the Doctor can still save her, and some clever soul can accuse Steven Moffat of 'pushing the reset button' (despite the Doctor's 54 year-old history of saving his companions) - but I've got a whole week to mourn the poor, plucky lass.

I'm going for a lie down now. Truly, Doctor Who at its very best right there.