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Post by mrperson on Dec 13, 2017 17:37:42 GMT
The only thing I can think of it is that it has something to do with the format - "BD50 x 2".
The Red Dwarf XII blu ray, for example, says "TDS-HD MA 2.0"
I don't know what any of this is. It's also odd because the other Blu-Rays I have don't even mention the format on the case. They just say it's a blu-ray, etc.
I guess I'll leave this up if it can help anyone or if anyone can help me, but it's starting to look like I'll have to return this....UNLESS I can poke around at that "find an app" option and get something for whatever "BD50 x 2" is supposed to be, though it seems extremely strange to me that anyone would put out some kind of new Blu-Ray that is somehow incompatible with existing Blu-Ray players. Everything should be readable.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 15, 2017 23:49:06 GMT
Has anyone else from the US bought the "region free" Blu-Ray of Shada from Amazon UK and is having problems? I simply cannot get it to play, but all my other DVDs/Blu-Rays play just fine. I could be missing something because I'm rather annoyed, and perhaps this'll be a draft for an email to tech support and/or reason for returning, BUT.... I put it in the player. A screen comes up with a cartoon console room. It says "Doctor Who Shada Disc 1", and a voice announces "to select audio navigation, press enter now." First of all, I do not have and never have had an "enter" button on a remote. If at that point, I use an "options" button to bring up a menu where I can select play disc, I get a message saying that that is not authorized for this disc. Fine, so I hit the "OK" and/or "select" button on my remote(s). That brings me to a new screen where I am invited to add "apps" to my blu-ray player. Apps ?!? Now, I don't have a problem with my blu-ray player - I tested this on other blu-rays once this happened just to make nothing was somehow deleted, etc - and this was supposed to be a region free DVD. None of the mask me for apps. But on this potential app-adding screen, there is an option with a disc-image on it, to watch the DVD. If I select that I just get brought back to the first screen ("A screen comes up with a cartoon console room. It says "Doctor Who Shada Disc 1", and a voice announces "to select audio navigation, press enter now.""). If instead of hitting any button when it says "Doctor Who Shada Disc 1", I simply wait, it doesn't play either. I forgot what I pressed but I managed to get to a further screen a few times. It said: Play Main Feature Audio Options Subtitles I selected the first and hit the "OK" button. That said "currently prohibited for this disc." In fact, any menu option I can call up from my Blu-Ray player, at any point, tells me that trying to play the disc from beginning is "prohibited". Select it and hit play, and I am brought right back to the first screen ("A screen comes up with a cartoon console room. It says "Doctor Who Shada Disc 1", and a voice announces "to select audio navigation, press enter now."") Am I losing my mind? Being a complete idiot? Again, I definitely ordered the region-free, my orders confirm it, and my Blu-Ray player definitely plays other Blu-Ray discs no problem. Red Dwarf Blu-Ray, the Hamlet w/ Brannaugh DVD we have from Netflix, yadda yadda. Everything else works. I’m having the exact same problem. What brand of Blu-ray player do you have?
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Post by redsharkJason on Dec 16, 2017 1:46:26 GMT
I’m having the exact same problem. This "region free" set apparently won't work on equipment that can't handle 50Hz material. It does reportedly work on PS4 and Xbox One. The odds of success are probably greater on the newer Blu-ray players.
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Post by number13 on Dec 16, 2017 12:51:06 GMT
I'd guess that 'regions' and compatibility probably only form a barrier to us honest buyers these days, the concept seems outdated. Especially when anyone can have a PC media centre with multiple drives each set to a different region if they want and stream from there!
If I was a non-Region 2 'Doctor Who' fan wanting BBC output, I think a Region 2 Blu-Ray player would be an essential and inexpensive buy, checking it was a dual-voltage model if required of course, and forget the whole 'compatibility' issue. Back in the day I had an NTSC video player for much the same reasons, in reverse, so I could buy videos from the US that might not have a PAL version available. At least that standards barrier was an accident of parallel development rather than being deliberate.
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Post by mrperson on Dec 16, 2017 19:07:48 GMT
Has anyone else from the US bought the "region free" Blu-Ray of Shada from Amazon UK and is having problems? I simply cannot get it to play, but all my other DVDs/Blu-Rays play just fine. I could be missing something because I'm rather annoyed, and perhaps this'll be a draft for an email to tech support and/or reason for returning, BUT.... I put it in the player. A screen comes up with a cartoon console room. It says "Doctor Who Shada Disc 1", and a voice announces "to select audio navigation, press enter now." First of all, I do not have and never have had an "enter" button on a remote. If at that point, I use an "options" button to bring up a menu where I can select play disc, I get a message saying that that is not authorized for this disc. Fine, so I hit the "OK" and/or "select" button on my remote(s). That brings me to a new screen where I am invited to add "apps" to my blu-ray player. Apps ?!? Now, I don't have a problem with my blu-ray player - I tested this on other blu-rays once this happened just to make nothing was somehow deleted, etc - and this was supposed to be a region free DVD. None of the mask me for apps. But on this potential app-adding screen, there is an option with a disc-image on it, to watch the DVD. If I select that I just get brought back to the first screen ("A screen comes up with a cartoon console room. It says "Doctor Who Shada Disc 1", and a voice announces "to select audio navigation, press enter now.""). If instead of hitting any button when it says "Doctor Who Shada Disc 1", I simply wait, it doesn't play either. I forgot what I pressed but I managed to get to a further screen a few times. It said: Play Main Feature Audio Options Subtitles I selected the first and hit the "OK" button. That said "currently prohibited for this disc." In fact, any menu option I can call up from my Blu-Ray player, at any point, tells me that trying to play the disc from beginning is "prohibited". Select it and hit play, and I am brought right back to the first screen ("A screen comes up with a cartoon console room. It says "Doctor Who Shada Disc 1", and a voice announces "to select audio navigation, press enter now."") Am I losing my mind? Being a complete idiot? Again, I definitely ordered the region-free, my orders confirm it, and my Blu-Ray player definitely plays other Blu-Ray discs no problem. Red Dwarf Blu-Ray, the Hamlet w/ Brannaugh DVD we have from Netflix, yadda yadda. Everything else works. I’m having the exact same problem. What brand of Blu-ray player do you have? Sony. I'm fairly certain we got it within the last few years, since our old player broke. Anyway, I couldn't get it to work on another attempt. Wife tried, couldn't get it to work either. So I've got to return it and wait.... Scratch that...they are simply refunding me. At least Amazon has a good returns policy. If anyone has this problem but manages to fix it before the U.S. release finally comes out, I'd love to hear about it.
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Post by mrperson on Dec 16, 2017 19:28:24 GMT
I’m having the exact same problem. This "region free" set apparently won't work on equipment that can't handle 50Hz material. It does reportedly work on PS4 and Xbox One. The odds of success are probably greater on the newer Blu-ray players. Hrmm... See, the thing that bugs me about that is that the entire point of having a type of medium - DVD, Blu-Ray, Cassette, VCR, whatnameyou - is that every player of that medium should be compatible with that medium. Hence the importance of winning a medium war (Betamax v. VHS, for example). It seems very odd to me that there could be a specific format of Blu-Ray that is not universally compatible with all Blu-Ray players.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 17, 2017 3:01:13 GMT
I’m having the exact same problem. What brand of Blu-ray player do you have? Sony. I'm fairly certain we got it within the last few years, since our old player broke. Anyway, I couldn't get it to work on another attempt. Wife tried, couldn't get it to work either. So I've got to return it and wait.... Scratch that...they are simply refunding me. At least Amazon has a good returns policy. If anyone has this problem but manages to fix it before the U.S. release finally comes out, I'd love to hear about it. I also have a Sony. Some googling makes it seem that this kind of problem with region free blurays is particularly common with Sony. I’m getting a disc cleaner in the mail tomorrow, in the hopes that I will be able to make my older, non-Sony BluRay player work. If that doesn’t work, I’ve also asked my brother to bring our XBox One with him when he comes home this week. I am determined to watch Shada.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 17, 2017 20:17:53 GMT
I got it to work on an XBox One! I'm going to watch it with my dad once he's done watching football.
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Post by mrperson on Dec 18, 2017 23:42:28 GMT
Allright, given how many people in this world are nutters, I fully understand if I don't get a response, but: unless someone can solve the problem with the region free Blu-Ray I got from Amazon UK in the reasonably near future, I'd be happy to mail it normal first-class to someone in the states for free - Amazon fully refunded and didn't ask me to mail it back, so it's useless to me.
The reason for the disclaimer should now be obvious: you'd have to give me an address to mail it to.
That, or I suppose I'll look up any libraries that carry DVDs/Blu-Rays. I've seen some that carry CDs, at least. Though hopefully it wouldn't be too much of a hassle for them to label it "only plays in PS4 or Xbox" (this issue drives me up the wall, btw. Hope I don't have to waste money on a new Blu-Ray player if more of these things get released).
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Post by newt5996 on Dec 19, 2017 0:37:21 GMT
Allright, given how many people in this world are nutters, I fully understand if I don't get a response, but: unless someone can solve the problem with the region free Blu-Ray I got from Amazon UK in the reasonably near future, I'd be happy to mail it normal first-class to someone in the states for free - Amazon fully refunded and didn't ask me to mail it back, so it's useless to me. The reason for the disclaimer should now be obvious: you'd have to give me an address to mail it to. That, or I suppose I'll look up any libraries that carry DVDs/Blu-Rays. I've seen some that carry CDs, at least. Though hopefully it wouldn't be too much of a hassle for them to label it "only plays in PS4 or Xbox" (this issue drives me up the wall, btw. Hope I don't have to waste money on a new Blu-Ray player if more of these things get released). I’ll take it.
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Post by elkawho on Dec 19, 2017 13:43:46 GMT
I don't have mine yet, but I really hope it works.
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Post by Ela on Dec 20, 2017 23:55:01 GMT
Still not convinced that I need this in addition to the other Shada versions I already own, but I can wait till it comes out in the US to get it. Some of them can also have the region changed, depending on what device you're using. I watch all my DVDs through my PC so I bought a cheap $30 external DVD drive and then changed the region through my computer to play Region 2 discs. Of course, it doesn't play Region 4 any more (although actually I've found the vast majority of DVDs are Region 2/4 dual coded), but I have my main DVD drive for that anyway. Just note: there is a limit to how many times you can change the region on a drive before it locks and you can't change it any more. That's why you use VLC media player, it bypasses that entirely and it free. I've found that using VLC player doesn't work consistently.
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Post by acousticwolf on Dec 21, 2017 9:02:40 GMT
I still haven't watched it - really need to sort my life out Cheers Tony
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 21, 2017 17:00:28 GMT
Still not convinced that I need this in addition to the other Shada versions I already own, but I can wait till it comes out in the US to get it. That's why you use VLC media player, it bypasses that entirely and it free. I've found that using VLC player doesn't work consistently. Really? I've used VLC for going on a decade now and it has never not played something.
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Post by glutamodo on Dec 21, 2017 18:12:30 GMT
I have had issues with VLC before, but that was not in playing a disc, it was on playing certain computer vidfiles.
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Post by Ela on Dec 21, 2017 20:00:35 GMT
I have had issues with VLC before, but that was not in playing a disc, it was on playing certain computer vidfiles. I've had the opposite problem. No problem playing vidfiles, but it won't play DVDs set to a different region from the one my computer is set to. If you are able to play DVDs from different regions than the one to which your computer is set, I'd love to know how you make that work. I have a full set of Blake's 7 DVDs collecting dust here cause they won't play on my computer.
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Post by newt5996 on Dec 22, 2017 15:10:36 GMT
I have had issues with VLC before, but that was not in playing a disc, it was on playing certain computer vidfiles. I've had the opposite problem. No problem playing vidfiles, but it won't play DVDs set to a different region from the one my computer is set to. If you are able to play DVDs from different regions than the one to which your computer is set, I'd love to know how you make that work. I have a full set of Blake's 7 DVDs collecting dust here cause they won't play on my computer. Maybe it needs an update? Or try a redownload?
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Post by Ela on Dec 22, 2017 16:38:55 GMT
I've had the opposite problem. No problem playing vidfiles, but it won't play DVDs set to a different region from the one my computer is set to. If you are able to play DVDs from different regions than the one to which your computer is set, I'd love to know how you make that work. I have a full set of Blake's 7 DVDs collecting dust here cause they won't play on my computer. Maybe it needs an update? Or try a redownload? No, that's not the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 19:56:42 GMT
This is now going on as my Christmas eve treat I LOVE the cheeky ident opening with Toby Hadoke's voiceover. I'm going in...see you in 2 hours, 20 mins! SHADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 22:30:39 GMT
It's absolutely terrific. The transition from live action to animation only takes a few back and forths to adjust to and then you're immersed enough to not notice the difference too consciously. The animation was fine - no issues with it whatsoever.
Having it as one big omnibus really made it feel like an event. JNT did try and salvage it as a one off TV movie in 1980 and its as though that's what the team recreated with this rather than a 6-ep story. I know we're about to get the Krikkitmen novel which might tell us much about what a Douglas Adams/Tom Baker movie would have been, but really.....Shada kinda does that already.
The star here may well be Mark Ayers. His score is just INCREDIBLE. It doesn't just sound Dudley Simpson-like, it sounds like Dudley at his very, very best. There's a repeated theme, a piece of music, that is very much evocking City Of Death's "We're running through Paris...." theme. It's very, very Season 17.
Oh, and that last 60 seconds.....I don't care if it makes zero sense it's completely punch the air beautiful.
A ridiculously good buy.
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