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Post by jasonward on Aug 22, 2017 21:03:52 GMT
Can't older men fancy younger women? Well, it's never been a problem for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 21:15:06 GMT
Can't older men fancy younger women? Well, it's never been a problem for me. Or me!
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 22:17:56 GMT
It would also appear that if a older male is to be the next companion, Chibnall is going out of his way to avoid any kind of sexual tension in the TARDIS. How so? A male companion who is younger or closer in age to actor playing The Doctor, I'd say he was leaving the door open. With a older male companion I think he is going out of his way to reassure fans who aren't sure of the gender swap. I feel like he is completely turning around the classic Doctor Who dynamic of older Doctor, younger companion. If it does indeed turn out to be a older male companion, I'd be stunned if he had any Nu Who Doctor/Companion style attraction going on between the leads.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 22:25:01 GMT
Can't older men fancy younger women? Well, it's never been a problem for me. What any of us here have a problem with personally isn't looking at the political landscape the BBC is with one of their crown jewels.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 22:35:38 GMT
Bradley Walsh isn't who I would have thought they would go for, but if true it's a smart move. The first female Doctor is a risky if long overdue decision, so a household name like Bradley Walsh would help as a form of reassurance to the audience. I think you might be wrong. There's probably quite a few people laughing at this whole thing. Female Doctor's one thing. But Bradley Walsh is another. I think it could be even more alienating. True, but then that's what was said about Matt Lucas of Little Britain fame. I'll admit, I was vaguely uncertain about him, but he turned into a fine companion.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 22:39:12 GMT
It means Chibnail's only going for Actors he knows, which he may be.
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Yes. But we must remember that RTD also cast Eccleston and Tennant - both of whom he'd worked with before. These are only two cast members - albeit the main ones - and maybe it's good that they work well with Chibnall. As I've said before, everything about Series 11 so far has been very divisive. It has me quite worried - honestly. And - as I've also said before - I think the castings could very easily go one way or another. An incoming producer on one of the most high profile gigs in all of entertainment should be able to cast talented performers that he knows and knows can handle the pressure. Chibnall isn't just casting a show, he is also creating a company that has to function & get along together under a grueling schedule. Plus they have to be able to handle the pressure of all the other functions the show's stars are responsible for. The requirements of being The Doctor and their companion is so much more than it used to be. If these are the actors CC and the BBC feel comfortable with and the ones they want to present to the world, then we should all give them the benefit of the doubt because frankly, they know a whole more about these people than we do. Once the episodes are out there, then we can all of us make our judgments.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 22:42:16 GMT
True, but then that's what was said about Matt Lucas of Little Britain fame. I'll admit, I was vaguely uncertain about him, but he turned into a fine companion. Matt Lucas' casting was probably alienating to the more causal of viewers and the public. Except wasn't Little Britain a huge hit when it started out? So much so that casting Lucas in that first Christmas special could be viewed as something of a stunt piece of casting to help bring in a different crowd? I can see his casting being divisive among the hardcore fans...but then what piece of casting ISN'T divisive to some factions of fandom....but to casual viewers and members of the public?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 22:47:57 GMT
Matt Lucas' casting was probably alienating to the more causal of viewers and the public. Except wasn't Little Britain a huge hit when it started out? So much so that casting in Lucas that first Christmas special could be viewed as something of a stunt piece of casting to help bring in a different crowd? I can see his casting being divisive among the hardcore fans...but then what piece of casting ISN'T divisive to some factions of fandom....but to casual viewers and members of the public? I'd actually be a bit surprised if it wasn't appealing:
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 22:49:32 GMT
And as a bloody Yank, the only thing I know of Bradley Walsh is that episode of Sarah Jane he was in along with the few episodes of Law & Order UK that I've seen. He strikes me as a pretty good actor.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 22:52:25 GMT
Maybe Walsh's character will have a hot son who will have a crush on the Doctor? Edit: my apologies, it sounds like I'm discussing an episode of Hollyoaks (UK teen soap) or something. I don't know whether these (unconfirmed) rumours are bravely innovative or utter s****. It just seems to be going out of its way to make everything completely different for the sake of it. But what do I know?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 22:59:13 GMT
And I'm sorry to look like I'm elevating my post count but if you look at the history of the show....who was William Hartnell before Doctor Who? A respected character actor with films like This Sporting Life on his CV. Not exactly the first person one would have thought of as the lead in a kid's science fiction adventure series? Would Jon Pertwee be the first/second/third/fourth etc name one would have thought of for the Doctor? As we all know, Tom Baker was an out of work actor digging ditches before he was cast with nothing on his imdb page screaming next Doctor. The point being, casting a show is part gut and part luck. And the gut part is something none of us has anything to say about. What I know about Chris Chibnall is, based on Broadchurch, he has a pretty good nose for casting. Again, I feel like we all have to give him & the Beeb the benefit of the doubt as far as putting their team together. If they were wrong or off and the show doesn't work in its new form, well, it will be obvious pretty quickly.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 23:01:25 GMT
Maybe Walsh's character will have a hot son who will have a crush on the Doctor? Edit: my apologies, it sounds like I'm discussing an episode of Hollyoaks (UK teen soap) or something. I don't know whether these (unconfirmed) rumours are bravely innovative or utter s****. It just seems to be going out of its way to make everything completely different for the sake of it. But what do I know? But what is he really going out of his way to make different? If you are going with a youngish female Doctor then the pairing to that would be an older male companion. I personally feel like it is the natural progression of the new dynamic. To me, it is kind of comforting.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Aug 22, 2017 23:08:18 GMT
Hiring Bradley Walsh is the nearest Doctor Who can get to Ant & Dec playing major parts in the series without it getting in the way of the show's credibility. Personally I think it still will lower the credibility. There's a lot of jokes people can make out of The Chase Presenter and woman Doctor. There was with Malcolm Tucker playing the Doctor. Bradley Walsh is a professional actor. It would be different if it was Philip Schofield rumoured to be playing a companion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 23:08:50 GMT
Maybe Walsh's character will have a hot son who will have a crush on the Doctor? Edit: my apologies, it sounds like I'm discussing an episode of Hollyoaks (UK teen soap) or something. I don't know whether these (unconfirmed) rumours are bravely innovative or utter s****. It just seems to be going out of its way to make everything completely different for the sake of it. But what do I know? But what is he really going out of his way to make different? If you are going with a youngish female Doctor then the pairing to that would be an older male companion. I personally feel like it is the natural progression of the new dynamic. To me, it is kind of comforting. My genuine reaction to this is that I cannot muster any enthusiasm for it. I honestly wish I could find it comforting, or exciting, or something, but it disappoints me to admit that I really cannot. Anyway, I won't clog up the thread with my negativity! I hope it is brilliant, as johnhurtdoctor feels sure it will be.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 23:16:00 GMT
I don't know if it will be brilliant or not. I just know that if CC is indeed going with an older male companion for a female Doctor, then that makes sense to me from a story perspective. It neatly reverses decades of what we are used to seeing. Which is why you make this kind of change. It allows CC and the writers to literally flip the script on an already very flexible format. It takes the potential that we always get with a new TARDIS team and it doubles that potential. You have your doubts, I respect that. You are a fan, you are entitled to your doubts. It doesn't make me doubt your love for the show. I just hope that by the time series 11 rolls around you are ready to sit down and enjoy some new Doctor Who as if it were the first adventure of any new Doctor from before.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 23:46:22 GMT
Personally I think it still will lower the credibility. There's a lot of jokes people can make out of The Chase Presenter and woman Doctor. There was with Malcolm Tucker playing the Doctor. Bradley Walsh is a professional actor. It would be different if it was Philip Schofield rumoured to be playing a companion. This is, also, a brilliantly terrible idea.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 22, 2017 23:53:05 GMT
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Aug 23, 2017 7:38:58 GMT
I'm expecting multiple companions. Chibnall always works with ensemble casts and in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, he went out of his way to have the Doctor bring along a whole team of guest companions. This seems like an interesting way to shake up the dynamic and give us more range in companions. Perhaps a team of outcasts and survivors, gathered through time and space, the TARDIS now their only home...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Aug 23, 2017 9:00:08 GMT
There was with Malcolm Tucker playing the Doctor. Bradley Walsh is a professional actor. It would be different if it was Philip Schofield rumoured to be playing a companion. Yes, probably. But with Malcolm Tucker that was a character and even then people didn't like it that much. I think this could be just too much at once. And - because Chibnall said about having "Risk After Risk" there's probably even more coming. Peter Capaldi was still largely known for Malcolm Tucker, just as Bradley Walsh is for The Chase. If true it's hardly like Chris Chibnall and Andy Pryor have cast a light entertainment presenter with no acting experience whatsoever.
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Post by shutupbanks on Aug 23, 2017 9:38:15 GMT
I live in Australia and I've barely watched any television beyond Doctor Who over the last three years and even I've heard of Bradley Walsh.
"Producer Casting Competent, Well-Known Actors He's Familiar With" hardly screams controversy at me. It sounds remarkably sensible to be perfectly honest.
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