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Post by Ela on Aug 7, 2018 0:22:43 GMT
Well, I listened to this a day or so ago, and have to say I did enjoy it. I was totally taken in by Mathew as a legitimate companion, at first. (And you all are spelling it wrong, by the way! He says "one t" every time he tells someone his name.) The idea for the villains seemed like a familiar scenario, but didn't particularly detract from the story. And I do wonder about that cry from Mathew at the end. Will he turn up again somewhere?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 7:28:28 GMT
Have not listened to it yet but the Cd is on the Doctor Who pile for when am more in a WHOey mood.Same with Iron Bright but must say enjoyed Hour immensely
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Post by lidar2 on Sept 14, 2018 9:04:23 GMT
This is just a fun story very well told. Listened to this and really enjoyed it. Audio watchdog sums it up perfectly. Highly recommended.
Not a game-changer regeneration story, or something hugely significant in terms of the show's mythology, just a well written, well acted well directed Doctor Who story of the kind that is bread and butter to fans.
Personally I would like more Mathew stories set prior to this, but only because my inner geek can't bear untied loose ends.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 23, 2018 14:35:56 GMT
Just listened to this. Hmm... good average I would say. For me, it was neither anything new or surprising I am afraid. But maybe my expectations were a bit different from reading the blurb- I expected more of a creepy haunted spaceship story. And while the atmosphere was alright, it just was not what I had expected.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 15:39:17 GMT
Ooooh I really liked this one, quite a few laugh out loud moments for me. Bit disappointed with regard Mathew (one T), I really liked him, and to hear more with him as companion would have been cool. Perhaps there's a chance of getting some prequel adventures with Mr Sharpe (with an E).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:11:14 GMT
Listened and relistened to this and i have to say its an interesting tale with an unusual enemy and the companion angle would have been better exploited in my opinion by having a couple of previous Mathew adventures before the ending...it would have made a brilliant end to a trilogy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:28:38 GMT
Ooooh I really liked this one, quite a few laugh out loud moments for me. Bit disappointed with regard Mathew (one T), I really liked him, and to hear more with him as companion would have been cool. Perhaps there's a chance of getting some prequel adventures with Mr Sharpe (with an E). I think it was an interesting end to the character there is a possibility that it was a real Mathew pleading at the end
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:44:47 GMT
Ooooh I really liked this one, quite a few laugh out loud moments for me. Bit disappointed with regard Mathew (one T), I really liked him, and to hear more with him as companion would have been cool. Perhaps there's a chance of getting some prequel adventures with Mr Sharpe (with an E). I think it was an interesting end to the character there is a possibility that it was a real Mathew pleading at the end Ooooh er, I never thought of that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 14:47:20 GMT
I think it was an interesting end to the character there is a possibility that it was a real Mathew pleading at the end Ooooh er, I never thought of that It was on the relisten it came to me...your Mathew?anyways i will give it a third listen soon an independent MATHEW it was the Doctor who took him back into his original timeline resparking his original focus
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 10:12:40 GMT
I think it was an interesting end to the character there is a possibility that it was a real Mathew pleading at the end Ooooh er, I never thought of that I decided to revisit this one while making the soup.Mathew has unsettled me am more convinced his travels had changed his original mission and it was the Doctor forcing him back that triggered the reactivation of his mission.
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Post by slithe on Nov 17, 2018 12:33:14 GMT
Ooooh er, I never thought of that I decided to revisit this one while making the soup.Mathew has unsettled me am more convinced his travels had changed his original mission and it was the Doctor forcing him back that triggered the reactivation of his mission. There does seem to be a possibility that this isn't completely *resolved*... Perhaps a trilogy of adventures with a reveal in the third story might have been better, but it might be that BF want to tease this out and/or develop over a longer Sixth Doctor arc. If you think about it, Sixie has two companions that are officially 'dead' - Constance (albeit resurrected in some form in Static) and Mathew... Coincidence?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 13:59:36 GMT
I decided to revisit this one while making the soup.Mathew has unsettled me am more convinced his travels had changed his original mission and it was the Doctor forcing him back that triggered the reactivation of his mission. There does seem to be a possibility that this isn't completely *resolved*... Perhaps a trilogy of adventures with a reveal in the third story might have been better, but it might be that BF want to tease this out and/or develop over a longer Sixth Doctor arc. If you think about it, Sixie has two companions that are officially 'dead' - Constance (albeit resurrected in some form in Static) and Mathew... Coincidence? Yes Constance too am still figuring out when we go back and she meets her husband isn’t she officially dead by his timeline?I need to actually do those two stories Quicksilver and Static soon
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 14:18:22 GMT
Another great Sixth Doctor story, with another great Colin Baker performance. Still the audio Doctor who I look forward to most of all, even after all these years.
Must say, I really enjoyed this one, through and through. And for once I really didn't see the twist coming at all. But it completely worked for me, and given the danger of audiences getting attached to characters rather quickly, particularly when the performer nails the character right out of the gate, I get why they perhaps wanted to keep this one self contained rather than dragged across multiple releases. And probably not the worst call, either, especially when you consider some of the reactions to a similar twist in another range recently.
Regardless, I soared through all four parts if this with ease, and enjoyed every moment along the way.
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Post by slithe on Jun 9, 2019 9:08:31 GMT
I also revisited this one. On reflection, I think it was better than I remembered and was far less critical of the story than I was on first release.
I like the idea that the Myriad had deliberately 'planned' to 'find' the Doctor and had given some thought about how best to ingratiate themselves into travelling with him - even down to choosing a certain incarnation (I think they were after the Fifth personally, but settled on the Sixth). The 'twist' is quite easy to see and becomes even more blindingly obvious when you know about it on a second listen. The sarcasm of Sharpe is quite cutting (hence the link to the line about Sharpe) and there is the darker tone to it. Initially, I dismissed it as characterisation to act as a 'foil' for the more bombastic Sixth Doctor - but actually, Sharpe is rather unpleasant from the off and you get the feeling in that first scene that he isn't really that respectful of the Doctor and has a hidden agenda.
I don't think Sear carries off the 'evil' Matthew as well in the final episode and is more like a stroppy teenager, rather than a malevolent force. Despite Baker's best efforts to make Sharpe appear evil, it just doesn't work. Better practice/rehearsal and/or a different actor would have made that far more powerful and made for a better final part. The Professor is better scripted if I'm honest and the experience between Barry and Sear does show.
Whether the Doctor knows about Matthew is unclear - the fact that the Doctor denies knowing Mathew suggests that he probably doesn't and was 'taken in' by him. The Seventh Doctor would probably have spotted it from the off, but this is the Sixth Doctor - he loves company and doesn't want to be alone. The fact that this is after Peri, suggests some guilt that another travelling companion has suffered a poor fate (he did sacrifice his previous incarnation to save her and the Fifth Doctor's final words were 'Adric'). The identity of 'Mathew' is something that would be nice to revisit at some point - it is unclear whether he survived at the end (or who the character was who died) - perhaps Sharpe transferred his consciousness back to the Myriad before the ship crashes into the sun.
I was surprised how much better this was on a second listen. A low-key story from 2018 that gets 'lost' between the strong Davison trilogy and the Hopkins releases.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 5:59:35 GMT
Just listened to this. Hmm... good average I would say. For me, it was neither anything new or surprising I am afraid. But maybe my expectations were a bit different from reading the blurb- I expected more of a creepy haunted spaceship story. And while the atmosphere was alright, it just was not what I had expected. I really really love this story.I think the final few minutes seal it for me and to be honest its the Doctor perhaps at his coldest,even colder that Tom Baker in Seeds of Doom. It chills me how he treats his treacherous companion,understandable yes but cold. I always think it deserves a sequel or prequels and if prequel it would make the finale even more chilling having adventures where the two actually get along.
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 24, 2019 6:39:28 GMT
Just listened to this. Hmm... good average I would say. For me, it was neither anything new or surprising I am afraid. But maybe my expectations were a bit different from reading the blurb- I expected more of a creepy haunted spaceship story. And while the atmosphere was alright, it just was not what I had expected. I really really love this story.I think the final few minutes seal it for me and to be honest its the Doctor perhaps at his coldest,even colder that Tom Baker in Seeds of Doom. It chills me how he treats his treacherous companion,understandable yes but cold. I always think it deserves a sequel or prequels and if prequel it would make the finale even more chilling having adventures where the two actually get along. I agree that it definitely needed a couple of prequels for the finale to have a real impact. The finale is, you are right, hands down the best part of the story. Yes, the Doctor is cold in that, but it is justified and believable. From his past experiences it would be more believable if he behaved like that more often. However, since this is only a single story, the finale feels not earned. I had no emotional connection and so it fell a bit flat with me I am afraid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 6:53:38 GMT
I really really love this story.I think the final few minutes seal it for me and to be honest its the Doctor perhaps at his coldest,even colder that Tom Baker in Seeds of Doom. It chills me how he treats his treacherous companion,understandable yes but cold. I always think it deserves a sequel or prequels and if prequel it would make the finale even more chilling having adventures where the two actually get along. I agree that it definitely needed a couple of prequels for the finale to have a real impact. The finale is, you are right, hands down the best part of the story. Yes, the Doctor is cold in that, but it is justified and believable. From his past experiences it would be more believable if he behaved like that more often. However, since this is only a single story, the finale feels not earned. I had no emotional connection and so it fell a bit flat with me I am afraid. I get where you are coming from but for me it does have an impact am not saying on par with the Peri ending in Timewarp but I find it equally chilling
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Post by BHTvsTFC on Aug 30, 2019 11:08:18 GMT
I liked the scene where Mathew twisted his ankle! In the age of #MeToo it is nice to have a companion who was just a 'nice young man,' and I was quite sad to lose the character at the end. Perhaps the future could see the character return in a Klein like capacity where he has been changed permanently and has to fight his real personality from breaking through or finds a fine line between the two.
Or perhaps the Doctor could do with some new male companions now and again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 11:26:06 GMT
I liked the scene where Mathew twisted his ankle! In the age of #MeToo it is nice to have a companion who was just a 'nice young man,' and I was quite sad to lose the character at the end. Perhaps the future could see the character return in a Klein like capacity where he has been changed permanently and has to fight his real personality from breaking through or finds a fine line between the two. Or perhaps the Doctor could do with some new male companions now and again. I think a trilogy with Lure as a finale was a missed opportunity a wee betrayal from a companion lovely stuff
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Post by slithe on Aug 30, 2019 14:41:24 GMT
I liked the scene where Mathew twisted his ankle! In the age of #MeToo it is nice to have a companion who was just a 'nice young man,' and I was quite sad to lose the character at the end. Perhaps the future could see the character return in a Klein like capacity where he has been changed permanently and has to fight his real personality from breaking through or finds a fine line between the two. Or perhaps the Doctor could do with some new male companions now and again. Having listened to this a few times, I find that the 'niceness' of Mathew does come across as rather forced. There is definitely a sarcastic and cutting edge to the character - hence the 'Sharpe' gag. I don't think it comes across as well on audio, but I always think that the ulterior motive with Mathew is there and he is rather scornful of the Doctor, rather than respectful. Even his 'banter' at the start is more barbed than usual. This would have been better at the end of a trilogy with the 'nice' Mathew gradually being revealed...
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