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Post by timleschild on Dec 15, 2023 10:13:14 GMT
I w9nder what Big Finish will do with the idea that the bi-regeneration planted…. I dread to think
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Post by elkawho on Dec 15, 2023 12:07:16 GMT
The old Abbot and Costello routine. Ok & googled. Not heard of them Whaaaat? Oh, do look them up and watch the "Who's on First?" routine. One of the greatest comedic bits ever made.
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Post by number13 on Dec 15, 2023 12:09:29 GMT
Ok & googled. Not heard of them Whaaaat? Oh, do look them up and watch the "Who's on First?" routine. One of the greatest comedic bits ever made. I thought the same. Let's face it, either Western Civilisation is collapsing around us, or I am getting old.
Of the two possibilities, I favour the first. (EDIT: The one on first. )
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Post by timleschild on Dec 15, 2023 12:19:18 GMT
Ok & googled. Not heard of them Whaaaat? Oh, do look them up and watch the "Who's on First?" routine. One of the greatest comedic bits ever made. I tried. Not my kind of humour.
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Post by timleschild on Dec 15, 2023 12:19:59 GMT
Whaaaat? Oh, do look them up and watch the "Who's on First?" routine. One of the greatest comedic bits ever made. I thought the same. Let's face it, either Western Civilisation is collapsing around us, or I am getting old.
Of the two possibilities, I favour the first. (EDIT: The one on first. ) They are an American comedy double act from the 1940s & 50s. Maybe they just weren't so well known in UK?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 12:28:49 GMT
I thought the same. Let's face it, either Western Civilisation is collapsing around us, or I am getting old.
Of the two possibilities, I favour the first. (EDIT: The one on first. ) They are an American comedy double act from the 1940s & 50s. Maybe they just weren't so well known in UK? Oh, they were, but only for people over a certain age (sorry guys, we ARE old)
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Dec 15, 2023 13:30:17 GMT
I w9nder what Big Finish will do with the idea that the bi-regeneration planted…. Turns out The Eleven's condition wasn't neurological, they just never got anyone to 'pull'. God, they're gonna be kickin' themselves. Literally.
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Post by timleschild on Dec 15, 2023 14:43:09 GMT
I w9nder what Big Finish will do with the idea that the bi-regeneration planted…. Turns out The Eleven's condition wasn't neurological, they just never got anyone to 'pull'. God, they're gonna be kickin' themselves. Literally. Forced bi-generation to 'cure' 11. Fails & they all run off & Doctor Who has to track them down. Another epic boxset from BF!
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 15, 2023 21:40:16 GMT
I w9nder what Big Finish will do with the idea that the bi-regeneration planted…. Turns out The Eleven's condition wasn't neurological, they just never got anyone to 'pull'. God, they're gonna be kickin' themselves. Literally. You know, that DOES actually make a lot of sense.
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Post by number13 on Dec 15, 2023 22:03:46 GMT
I w9nder what Big Finish will do with the idea that the bi-regeneration planted…. Turns out The Eleven's condition wasn't neurological, they just never got anyone to 'pull'. God, they're gonna be kickin' themselves. Literally. I like it! BF epic boxset incoming: 'Twelve Angry (Charming/Murderous/Nice/Kleptomaniac/Mesmeric/etc.) Men (Including One Lady)'
Though I'll admit my title suggestion needs work.
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Post by shutupbanks on Dec 15, 2023 23:06:25 GMT
Turns out The Eleven's condition wasn't neurological, they just never got anyone to 'pull'. God, they're gonna be kickin' themselves. Literally. I like it! BF epic boxset incoming: 'Twelve Angry (Charming/Murderous/Nice/Kleptomaniac/Mesmeric/etc.) Men (Including One Lady)'
Though I'll admit my title suggestion needs work. All About Evil? Dozen Look Good? UnSybil? … I’ll get my coat.
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Post by number13 on Dec 16, 2023 1:47:30 GMT
I like it! BF epic boxset incoming: 'Twelve Angry (Charming/Murderous/Nice/Kleptomaniac/Mesmeric/etc.) Men (Including One Lady)'
Though I'll admit my title suggestion needs work. All About Evil? Dozen Look Good? UnSybil? … I’ll get my coat. Too late, the Nine has already nicked it.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 16, 2023 3:06:14 GMT
I like it! BF epic boxset incoming: 'Twelve Angry (Charming/Murderous/Nice/Kleptomaniac/Mesmeric/etc.) Men (Including One Lady)'
Though I'll admit my title suggestion needs work. All About Evil? Dozen Look Good? UnSybil? … I’ll get my coat. I’d go for puns based on the Twelve Days of Christmas myself….
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Post by fitzoliverj on Dec 16, 2023 10:52:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 12:52:46 GMT
Whilst sticking the CyberKettle on for a CyberCoffee, the postie dropped off the 60th Anniversary steelbook before release. That'll do!
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Dec 16, 2023 14:45:34 GMT
Bigeneration doesn't "solve" 6B. For instance, if the Second Doctor in The Two Doctors is post regeneration then the changes inflicted on him by the Androgums wouldn't affect Six.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 15:12:29 GMT
Bigeneration doesn't "solve" 6B. For instance, if the Second Doctor in The Two Doctors is post regeneration then the changes inflicted on him by the Androgums wouldn't affect Six. So reading between the lines, once he finally dies Tennant still leads to Gatwa, as Gatwa implies he's back to being happy and carefree as a result of all the mental healing Tennant is about to do. It's just that there's a weird temporal shift going on. This feels like it ties in quite nicely with the way the abbot regenerates in Planet of the Spiders, though I'd need to draw a flowchart to be sure I'd got it straight in my head. Long way of saying, anything that happens to Troughton post regeneration would still affect Pertwee.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 15:16:39 GMT
Bigeneration doesn't "solve" 6B. For instance, if the Second Doctor in The Two Doctors is post regeneration then the changes inflicted on him by the Androgums wouldn't affect Six. So reading between the lines, once he finally dies Tennant still leads to Gatwa, as Gatwa implies he's back to being happy and carefree as a result of all the mental healing Tennant is about to do. It's just that there's a weird temporal shift going on. This feels like it ties in quite nicely with the way the abbot regenerates in Planet of the Spiders, though I'd need to draw a flowchart to be sure I'd got it straight in my head. Long way of saying, anything that happens to Troughton post regeneration would still affect Pertwee. Add in the timeline was changed due to Matt causing Big Bang 2.0, the Flux and the Toymaker's jigsaw to explain away the rest.
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Post by martinw8686 on Dec 16, 2023 15:44:55 GMT
I like the bi-generation of 14 and 15 as a one off. It feels like there's a much larger story to tell if it's a mystery anomaly.
I really don't like the idea of the past Doctors Resurrection, it steals all the poignancy of their original death. Some of my favourite stories are the Doctors final episodes, for example,
The War Games The Caves of Androzani Night of the Doctor Day of the Doctor The Parting of the Ways The Doctor Falls/Twice Upon a Time Power of the Doctor.
These stories now feel somehow less.
I feel 14 (10) gets a pass on my dislike of the retro bi-generation because there's a story to tell. I like the idea of 14 absorbing all the returned Doctors to become The Curator, there for being a separate entity. But if older Doctors are somehow bumping around after their demise it's a logistic nightmare.
1st Doctor- immediately dies again from old age.
2nd Doctor- is infront of the Timelords and simply gets re-exhiled.
3rd, 4th and 5th Doctors could be okay.
6th Doctor is re attacked by the Rani
7th Doctor is still believed to be a corpse in the morgue and while unconscious suffacates in his body bag.
8th Doctor reappears on Karn to live the nightmare of the Time War over again, only to dissappear from existence when The War Doctor uses the Moment.
The War Doctor immediately dies of old age on his return.
The Ninth Doctor is okay, until being sucked into metaverse where he is recast as Sean Bean due to the unavailability of Christopher Eccleston.
The 10th Doctor starts a chain reaction of never ending Tennant's that gradually consume all the universe's natural resources.
All the remaining Doctors are consumed by a swarm of rampaging Tennant Doctors until all that remains is Tennant.
Apologies I started out with a serious point but appear to have decended into utterly silliness!
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Post by number13 on Dec 16, 2023 15:54:06 GMT
I like the bi-generation of 14 and 15 as a one off. It feels like there's a much larger story to tell if it's a mystery anomaly ... All the remaining Doctors are consumed by a swarm of rampaging Tennant Doctors until all that remains is Tennant.
Apologies I started out with a serious point but appear to have decended into utterly silliness! Well, I enjoyed it!
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