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Post by chronotis on Jan 8, 2016 9:47:43 GMT
Shalka was de-canonised when Nu-Who went into production so you really have to treat that as alternate history at best. Perhaps Shalka hasn't been totally de-cannonised. Both Shalka and Hell Bent mention the Doctor running off with the President’s daughter....
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 8, 2016 10:07:37 GMT
Shalka was de-canonised when Nu-Who went into production so you really have to treat that as alternate history at best. Perhaps Shalka hasn't been totally de-cannonised. Both Shalka and Hell Bent mention the Doctor running off with the President’s daughter.... Scream of the Shalka could have been the Great Intelligence interfering with the Doctor's timeline in Name of the Doctor.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 8, 2016 10:13:37 GMT
Whatever you do, don't mention the War Chief ... oh damn ... Cheers Tony what about the War Chief who fought in the Time War? The War War Chief? They wouldn't need a War War Chief because the War Chief would just fight voluntarily.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jan 8, 2016 10:23:34 GMT
I like to think of Shalka as being what would have happened if there was no Time War.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jan 8, 2016 10:26:40 GMT
Personally, my Master timeline looks like this: William Hughes: The Sound of Drums (flashback), Master (flashback)Roger Delgado: The Toy (flashback), The Dark Path [...] Legacy of the Daleks Peter Pratt & Geoffrey Beevers: The Deadly Assassin [...] The Keeper of Traken Anthony Ainley: Logopolis [...] Survival Basil Rathbone: First Frontier, Happy Endings - Body decays back to Ainley - Anthony Ainley: Prime Time, Stop The Pigeon, Prisoners of Time Geoffrey Beevers: Dust Breeding, Master - The Master gets a body shaped like Canadian actor Gordon Tipple - Gordon Tipple: The Eight Doctors (Skaro flashback), Doctor Who (prologue) Eric Roberts & Geoffrey Beevers (Deathworm/Essence): Doctor Who, The Fallen, The Glorious Dead, Sometime Never, The Deadstone Memorial, The Gallifrey Chronicles, The Centenarian: Prologue & Forgotten, Mastermind (and maybe The Adventuress of Henrietta Street but that one is hard to place) Alex Macqueen: Dark Eyes 2, Dark Eyes 3, UNIT: Dominion, Dark Eyes 4 Derek Jacobi: Utopia John Simm: Utopia [...] The End of Time Michelle Gomez: Deep Breath [...] The Witch's Familiar Although this is open to much debate and based on the always-obvious fact that Doctor Who Is Not Made To Fit Together, it's the best I've got. Bonus round: If the Shalka Master comes somewhere in the Deathworm/Essence section, perhaps Scream of the Shalka takes place in a pre-Gallifreyan-restoration timeline after the EDAs? [/spoiler] [/quote] the Rathbone body has regeneration abiilties restored, maybe he regenerates into Aniley and his encounter with the Scream burns out all his regenerations.
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Post by lidar on Jan 8, 2016 10:44:22 GMT
Personally, my Master timeline looks like this: William Hughes: The Sound of Drums (flashback), Master (flashback)Roger Delgado: The Toy (flashback), The Dark Path [...] Legacy of the Daleks Peter Pratt & Geoffrey Beevers: The Deadly Assassin [...] The Keeper of Traken Anthony Ainley: Logopolis [...] Survival Basil Rathbone: First Frontier, Happy Endings - Body decays back to Ainley - Anthony Ainley: Prime Time, Stop The Pigeon, Prisoners of Time Geoffrey Beevers: Dust Breeding, Master - The Master gets a body shaped like Canadian actor Gordon Tipple - Gordon Tipple: The Eight Doctors (Skaro flashback), Doctor Who (prologue) Eric Roberts & Geoffrey Beevers (Deathworm/Essence): Doctor Who, The Fallen, The Glorious Dead, Sometime Never, The Deadstone Memorial, The Gallifrey Chronicles, The Centenarian: Prologue & Forgotten, Mastermind (and maybe The Adventuress of Henrietta Street but that one is hard to place) Alex Macqueen: Dark Eyes 2, Dark Eyes 3, UNIT: Dominion, Dark Eyes 4 Derek Jacobi: Utopia John Simm: Utopia [...] The End of Time Michelle Gomez: Deep Breath [...] The Witch's Familiar Although this is open to much debate and based on the always-obvious fact that Doctor Who Is Not Made To Fit Together, it's the best I've got. Bonus round: If the Shalka Master comes somewhere in the Deathworm/Essence section, perhaps Scream of the Shalka takes place in a pre-Gallifreyan-restoration timeline after the EDAs? Out of interest, why do you place UNIT Dominion between Dark Eyes 3 and 4? Random choice or is is there some evidence within? Not disagreeing, just curious
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jan 8, 2016 10:55:11 GMT
Because in DE2 the Master is surprised the Doctor recognises him.
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Post by CookieMaster on Jan 8, 2016 10:59:45 GMT
Shalka was de-canonised when Nu-Who went into production so you really have to treat that as alternate history at best. Perhaps Shalka hasn't been totally de-cannonised. Both Shalka and Hell Bent mention the Doctor running off with the President’s daughter.... Curious, there's also been a mention of an android boyfriend in Time of the Doctor, then Deep Breath has Missy calling the Doctor her boyfriend.
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Post by lidar on Jan 8, 2016 11:17:49 GMT
Because in DE2 the Master is surprised the Doctor recognises him. Fair enough. Though I suppose UNIT:Dominion could still be after DE4?
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 8, 2016 13:55:20 GMT
what about the War Chief who fought in the Time War? The War War Chief? They wouldn't need a War War Chief because the War Chief would just fight voluntarily. He'd be the Peace Chief surely lmao
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Post by randomjc on Jan 8, 2016 14:20:47 GMT
Perhaps Shalka hasn't been totally de-cannonised. Both Shalka and Hell Bent mention the Doctor running off with the President’s daughter.... Scream of the Shalka could have been the Great Intelligence interfering with the Doctor's timeline in Name of the Doctor. No, Bad. Do not ever speak such Heresy!
Shalka Doctor is not the Great Intelligence.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 8, 2016 14:54:39 GMT
Scream of the Shalka could have been the Great Intelligence interfering with the Doctor's timeline in Name of the Doctor. No, Bad. Do not ever speak such Heresy!
Shalka Doctor is not the Great Intelligence.
Actually, he *technically* is given they share the same actor.
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Post by randomjc on Jan 8, 2016 14:56:13 GMT
No, Bad. Do not ever speak such Heresy!
Shalka Doctor is not the Great Intelligence.
Actually, he *technically* is given they share the same actor. HERESY!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 15:14:52 GMT
Actually, he *technically* is given they share the same actor. HERESY! Which was more animated...the badly flash animated Richard E Grant or the po-faced badly acted Great Intelligence Richard E Grant.....there's only one way to find out...FIIIIIIIIGHT. Withnail was a looooong time ago for REG. Wonder what happened to the guy that played "I"
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Post by randomjc on Jan 8, 2016 15:23:24 GMT
I suppose it's time to make a confession, the first Doctor I ever watched, and got me into Doctor Who, was the Shalka Doctor. I know I'd seen a Colin story, Troughton, and Tom in there. but it was Shalka that made me like Doctor Who. (I was really into the bad Flash Animation at the time...)
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 8, 2016 18:27:55 GMT
I suppose it's time to make a confession, the first Doctor I ever watched, and got me into Doctor Who, was the Shalka Doctor. I know I'd seen a Colin story, Troughton, and Tom in there. but it was Shalka that made me like Doctor Who. (I was really into the bad Flash Animation at the time...) I don't think it's that bad to be fair but it's certainly not to the quality of proper animation.
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Post by randomjc on Jan 8, 2016 18:34:23 GMT
I suppose it's time to make a confession, the first Doctor I ever watched, and got me into Doctor Who, was the Shalka Doctor. I know I'd seen a Colin story, Troughton, and Tom in there. but it was Shalka that made me like Doctor Who. (I was really into the bad Flash Animation at the time...) I don't think it's that bad to be fair but it's certainly not to the quality of proper animation. well, that is down to what proper animation is.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 8, 2016 19:06:12 GMT
I don't think it's that bad to be fair but it's certainly not to the quality of proper animation. well, that is down to what proper animation is. My definition is hand-drawn 2D,CGI 2D, 3D or stop-motion animation.
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Post by randomjc on Jan 8, 2016 19:18:26 GMT
well, that is down to what proper animation is. My definition is hand-drawn 2D,CGI 2D, 3D or stop-motion animation. Good to know...
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Post by constonks on Jan 8, 2016 19:44:32 GMT
Because in DE2 the Master is surprised the Doctor recognises him. Fair enough. Though I suppose UNIT:Dominion could still be after DE4? Oh absolutely it could be. That's just me adhering to other folks' ideas. UNIT: Dominion definitely seems post-DE2 though cause DE2 offers an origin for the MacQueen Master - resurrected for "something big". Honestly none of it is set in stone though.
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