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Post by bethhigdon on Jul 5, 2024 16:54:30 GMT
There's a difference between a big ten party having some policies you disagree with mixed with some you do care about, vs a political party lurching to the far right and advocating diminishing the basic human rights of others at every turn while offering nothing productive and only fear of the 'other side'.
Also, its just a well known fact by now that Neo-liberal economics not only do not work but actively lead to the reduction of personal freedoms. So yes, anyone who still believes otherwise is just holding onto a fantasy for the sake of their own pride and does not care about the well being of others.
So 100% Liberal is the ideal then? Regards mark687 So you didn't read anything I just typed then?
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Post by BHTvsTFC on Jul 5, 2024 17:03:16 GMT
So 100% Liberal is the ideal then? Regards mark687 So you didn't read anything I just typed then? Maybe he's a politician.
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Post by timleschild on Jul 5, 2024 17:21:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 16:08:58 GMT
Hold the position on here now is 1. If someone Votes for a Party they Support EVERY Policy of that Party? 2. Not every Policy from any Party is Perfect anyway? 3 So accepting the 1st 2 How were People Expected to Vote? 4. Because apparently people can Judge that others have Voted wrong or Wrong whatever they Voted for? If an Everything or Nothing position is being expressed here I do fear come 2029 we're heading for Totalitarianism with a spin. Regards mark687 1. You vote for it when they're not hiding it? YES. You don't have a special box next to Tory saying "Be fiscally responsible BUT nice to immigrants". 2. Duh. We live with finite resources. 3. With their conscience. Some have less of one OR prefer their wallet and/or hate immigrants and other minorities. 4. No. We can judge when someone is saying "I know we're a bad party but I'm one of the nice voters for it", as though that admonishes them from propping up wickedness. The people you're defending here are the totalitarians. Don't confuse people being more passionate about elections (which are FOUGHT after all, opportune word) in the week of an election. I honestly would expect better from a fellow wheelchair user. These people have seen disabled people lose benefits by the tens of thousand. They've sent cancer patients back to work. If you think we have to play "good people on both sides" nonsense? There's an Orange man in America who tried that line too.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 6, 2024 20:19:11 GMT
Hold the position on here now is 1. If someone Votes for a Party they Support EVERY Policy of that Party? 2. Not every Policy from any Party is Perfect anyway? 3 So accepting the 1st 2 How were People Expected to Vote? 4. Because apparently people can Judge that others have Voted wrong or Wrong whatever they Voted for? If an Everything or Nothing position is being expressed here I do fear come 2029 we're heading for Totalitarianism with a spin. Regards mark687 1. You vote for it when they're not hiding it? YES. You don't have a special box next to Tory saying "Be fiscally responsible BUT nice to immigrants". 2. Duh. We live with finite resources. 3. With their conscience. Some have less of one OR prefer their wallet and/or hate immigrants and other minorities. 4. No. We can judge when someone is saying "I know we're a bad party but I'm one of the nice voters for it", as though that admonishes them from propping up wickedness. The people you're defending here are the totalitarians. Don't confuse people being more passionate about elections (which are FOUGHT after all, opportune word) in the week of an election. I honestly would expect better from a fellow wheelchair user. These people have seen disabled people lose benefits by the tens of thousand. They've sent cancer patients back to work. If you think we have to play "good people on both sides" nonsense? There's an Orange man in America who tried that line too. For the record I Voted Lab based on conscience and view of policy. (and yes Kendall could be problematic but so could anybody in terms of Welfare/Support) Regards mark687
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 7, 2024 0:32:43 GMT
1. You vote for it when they're not hiding it? YES. You don't have a special box next to Tory saying "Be fiscally responsible BUT nice to immigrants". 2. Duh. We live with finite resources. 3. With their conscience. Some have less of one OR prefer their wallet and/or hate immigrants and other minorities. 4. No. We can judge when someone is saying "I know we're a bad party but I'm one of the nice voters for it", as though that admonishes them from propping up wickedness. The people you're defending here are the totalitarians. Don't confuse people being more passionate about elections (which are FOUGHT after all, opportune word) in the week of an election. I honestly would expect better from a fellow wheelchair user. These people have seen disabled people lose benefits by the tens of thousand. They've sent cancer patients back to work. If you think we have to play "good people on both sides" nonsense? There's an Orange man in America who tried that line too. For the record I Voted Lab based on conscience and view of policy. (and yes Kendall could be problematic but so could anybody in terms of Welfare/Support) Regards mark687 It’s cool whoever you voted for man you shouldn’t worry I mean voting is done anonymously
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Post by bethhigdon on Jul 7, 2024 20:03:26 GMT
Good news in France tonight!
Here's hoping the US can replicate the UK and France's results come Nov
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Post by timleschild on Jul 8, 2024 20:54:31 GMT
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jul 9, 2024 22:10:40 GMT
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Post by timleschild on Aug 4, 2024 16:56:18 GMT
Starmer stepping up!
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