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Post by aztec on May 4, 2017 10:43:32 GMT
Very excited Baker's got a new companion at last, will be interesting to see how this fits with the '1977 Tea Time again' idea, will she push the Doctor in new directions creating a brand new era for the 4th Dr, or simply be a character inserted into Williams/Hincliffe style stories?
I am kinda dissapointed it's not a male companion, there's too few of them as it is...
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Post by number13 on May 4, 2017 10:43:43 GMT
Sounds interesting and they certainly have deployed an A-list of authors, no doubt a great season to come and I must say I'm looking forward to next year's even more. Leela and Sutekh for starters!
On a mundane level, there's a significant price cut (all welcome when there's always the next release to be bought!) I can see the CD releases would be cheaper this way without the individual release postage costs (which are still 'free' in the UK, so have to be paid for by BF), but look at the download pricing - £65 sub now for a 9 story season, £40 for 8 next year and 2019.
This 4DA range has always had a premium price tag, so I wonder how they have managed to do that?
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Post by aztec on May 4, 2017 10:48:25 GMT
This 4DA range has always had a premium price tag, so I wonder how they have managed to do that? Maybe: Tom Baker took a wage cut? The boxsets are cheaper to produce/schedule?-they certainly seem to big sellers in other ranges The 4DA's are often recorded and banked so far ahead of release (2-4 years I think) perhaps they had to raise the prices on early seasons to make the range pay for itself sooner and tempt Baker back with the idea of making them more high profile, now that the range has settled in perhaps they've been able to lower costs a little.
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Post by number13 on May 4, 2017 10:50:16 GMT
On the Adric topic, I too would like to see him travel with Four at some time. I think there's quite a long gap between Traken and Logopolis - it seems a while since they last saw Nyssa and Adric's later sulkiness in 'the crowded TARDIS' implies that he must have spent some significant time travelling with and learning from Four, or why would he be missing it later with Five/Nyssa/Tegan?
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Post by bobod on May 4, 2017 10:50:34 GMT
The production (music / design / performances) is all good but it's just so dull. It's easily the Adric story I'm least interested in. Even duller than Four to Doomsday? The writer on Keeper did a pretty good job of fleshing out the world of Traken for the time he had, and Nyssa got on pretty well with Adric. It's a shame they didn't get much time together afterwards with the crowded season 19 TARDIS, and Nyssa was having to mediate fights between Adric and the Doctor, Adric and Tegan and/or Tegan and the Doctor. Oh, the world-building is good and its certainly more poetic/lyrical than Four to Doomsday, but I just find it flat. (Matthew thinks I'm mad to do so.)
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Post by aztec on May 4, 2017 10:56:24 GMT
No offense to Matthew Waterhouse intended, but I think it proves how highly BF is thought of at developing/rehabilitating Classic Who characters, when a lot of us seem equally excited by a new companion as we are by the idea of reuniting a tardis team(s) that had just 3-5 stories and never had an especially popular reputation.
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Post by omega on May 4, 2017 10:58:37 GMT
This 4DA range has always had a premium price tag, so I wonder how they have managed to do that? Maybe: Tom Baker took a wage cut? The boxsets are cheaper to produce/schedule?-they certainly seem to big sellers in other ranges The 4DA's are often recorded and banked so far ahead of release (2-4 years I think) perhaps they had to raise the prices on early seasons to make the range pay for itself sooner and tempt Baker back with the idea of making them more high profile, now that the range has settled in perhaps they've been able to lower costs a little. Maybe having Jane Slavin as companion means all the recording can be done in one studio, cutting recording and post-production time.
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Post by number13 on May 4, 2017 10:59:56 GMT
This 4DA range has always had a premium price tag, so I wonder how they have managed to do that? The 4DA's are often recorded and banked so far ahead of release (2-4 years I think) perhaps they had to raise the prices on early seasons to make the range pay for itself sooner and tempt Baker back with the idea of making them more high profile, now that the range has settled in perhaps they've been able to lower costs a little. Yes, that makes sense. I believe the 4DAs are the best selling range by some distance (just hearsay, but seems probable) and now that sales volume will offset any cost premium.
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Post by number13 on May 4, 2017 11:01:19 GMT
Maybe: Tom Baker took a wage cut? The boxsets are cheaper to produce/schedule?-they certainly seem to big sellers in other ranges The 4DA's are often recorded and banked so far ahead of release (2-4 years I think) perhaps they had to raise the prices on early seasons to make the range pay for itself sooner and tempt Baker back with the idea of making them more high profile, now that the range has settled in perhaps they've been able to lower costs a little. Maybe having Jane Slavin as companion means all the recording can be done in one studio, cutting recording and post-production time. That would apply to the Leela season next year too, I think?
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Post by number13 on May 4, 2017 11:10:27 GMT
No offense to Matthew Waterhouse intended, but I think it proves how highly BF is thought of at developing/rehabilitating Classic Who characters, when a lot of us seem equally excited by a new companion as we are by the idea of reuniting a tardis team(s) that had just 3-5 stories and never had an especially popular reputation. And that's an understatement where Adric is concerned! If I had said in 1982 that I was hoping for Adric to return, in any way, ever, friends would have known I was either the Master in a rubber mask, or Kamelion! No way would the real me ever have said such a thing... but now, yes please! It shows the quality of BF's writers and script editors that we expect (and get) great results with practically every scenario and set of characters.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 4, 2017 11:11:23 GMT
Damn. I was hoping for a talking cabbage.
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Post by omega on May 4, 2017 11:14:26 GMT
Damn. I was hoping for a talking cabbage. If you're suggesting Jeremy Fitzoliver, I'd have Will Arrowsmith back in a heartsbeat!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 11:25:33 GMT
Well, the casting wasn't exactly a surprise, but that familiarity and friendliness between the two will hopefully translate on audio into a nice chemistry between the Fourth Doctor and his new companion, so it's probably all for the best. And it will be nice for us as an audience to have another new companion to get to know. Should be fun.
That said, I do still want to see a Fourth Doctor and Adric season...
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Post by muckypup on May 4, 2017 11:29:21 GMT
well its nice to see the same price cut we have for series 7 continue into series 8.
the recording with Lalla ward as a second session, contributed to keeping the prices high.
but it has had the bonus of getting Jane Slavin's relationship with Tom to a point where they feel a new companion will work.
i am still not sold on box sets, but am delighted that we are getting what amounts to a 16 episode epic adventure.
only downside is i was hoping they were going to announce some more Hinchcliffe stories, and i really think the 4th doc needs to meet a future incarnation of himself, while we can!
but i have to say good on Mr Baker he has really delivered the goods coming the the BF party late.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 12:36:03 GMT
No offense to Matthew Waterhouse intended, but I think it proves how highly BF is thought of at developing/rehabilitating Classic Who characters, when a lot of us seem equally excited by a new companion as we are by the idea of reuniting a tardis team(s) that had just 3-5 stories and never had an especially popular reputation. More Fourth Doctor stories are always welcome, but I really would have preferred to hear Tom and Matthew together in some Fourth Doctor adventures with Adric before adventures with a completely new companion. (And that's something I never thought I'd say in 1982!)
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Post by Ian McArdell on May 4, 2017 13:15:21 GMT
Just out of curiosity, and apologies if I'm missing a trick here, but what are we to make of the modified release pattern for S8?
Series 7 hits in 2x4 episode releases in Jan and May 2018. Today's news suggests Series 8 will be released in Jan and then Feb 2019 - so is there more to come, or will we be holding our breath until 2020? More Philip Hinchliffe Presents I hope... or a whole further series with Tom later in the year maybe?
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Post by number13 on May 4, 2017 13:23:37 GMT
Just out of curiosity, and apologies if I'm missing a trick here, but what are we to make of the modified release pattern for S8? Series 7 hits in 2x4 episode releases in Jan and May 2018. Today's news suggests Series 8 will be released in Jan and then Feb 2019 - so is there more to come, or will we be holding our breath until 2020? More Philip Hinchliffe Presents I hope... or a whole further series with Tom later in the year maybe? I hadn't noticed that. They say it's because the two sets make one long story but still, it is unusual, so let's hope for more PHP yes please! Or more 4DA sets with the classic companions as you say.
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Post by kimalysong on May 4, 2017 13:23:43 GMT
Well a new companion is exciting to me (and I love the idea of a female cop from the 70's, although it does make me pine a bit for DI Menzies) but its a bit too early for me to order stuff for 2019. I still need to order the 2nd half of Season 7.
And I'd also love some Adric and the 4th Doctor on a side note.
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Post by mark687 on May 4, 2017 13:28:13 GMT
Just out of curiosity, and apologies if I'm missing a trick here, but what are we to make of the modified release pattern for S8? Series 7 hits in 2x4 episode releases in Jan and May 2018. Today's news suggests Series 8 will be released in Jan and then Feb 2019 - so is there more to come, or will we be holding our breath until 2020? More Philip Hinchliffe Presents I hope... or a whole further series with Tom later in the year maybe? Not sure
BF confirmed that's the release pattern for the 4DA's for the next 2 years.
Season 10 was in the early planning stages last year.
PHP The Helm of Awe Invterviews implied that BF won't actively pursue Mr Hinchcliffe for more idea though if he came to them with anther near complete story they'd be delighted to make it.
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Post by number13 on May 4, 2017 13:31:51 GMT
Well a new companion is exciting to me (and I love the idea of a female cop from the 70's, although it does make me pine a bit for DI Menzies) but its a bit too early for me to order stuff for 2019. I still need to order the 2nd half of Season 7. And I'd also love some Adric and the 4th Doctor on a side note. Has Adric ever been so popular in all his years of existence as on this thread today? (I immediately wanted to add: 'Yes, at the end of Earthshock', but stopped myself just in time... ) But the transformation is remarkable and I agree, it's an untold story which would be great to hear. We know that BF writers pass this way sometimes, so perhaps the approving comments will float up to their High Council? Also, great idea for a new companion, a trained investigator should fit perfectly into TARDIS life and she might even keep the Fourth Doctor's flippancy in check... maybe! And given the criminal types she must have faced down on 70s Earth, there are some alien monsters in for a real wake-up call if they try the old 'abduct the companion' move...
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