mbt66
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Post by mbt66 on May 4, 2017 20:47:13 GMT
It's strange that we now know more about series 8 than we do about series 7!
Always good news to hear about more Fourth Doctor and the fact that they are releasing both FDA boxsets in early 2019 gives hope that they might have even more planed for him.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 4, 2017 20:52:07 GMT
I've been waiting for news on 2019's FDAs since I heard we'd be getting a new companion, but I never expected to get this much information all at once! I'm very excited for Series 8! I can wait for a series with Adric, there's still plenty of time for that later. AND we're getting a four part, Fourth Doctor adventure from John Dorney! Series 8 sounds fantastic! If Big Finish makes announcements when studio recording is completed, then there is no reason not to I suppose. Plus I have to think 4th Doctor audios pretty much sell themselves, so if they are recorded and in the can put the info out there and get the cash flow flowing. I'll be looking to pre-order this and my 2018 sub soon.
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Post by fingersmash on May 4, 2017 21:15:34 GMT
I just want something different and experimental. An alien, or a male, or a married couple, or a dating couple. A gay man who's out and proud about it (I know Oliver, but something more than three hours and who's not going to have his entire character arc be about being gay and closeted). I just want something different from the straight white female in her 20s/30s/40s we've been seeing Big Finish casting as companion lately. I agree with your wanting to mix things up when it comes to new companions. As for making a companion "gay" just to be different - no thanks! Why does gay have to be the modern day equivalent to being different? My intention is not to browbeat your comments, but it seems to me like a contrived solution (which nowadays in entertainment appears to be fashionable) in order to create ingenuity. I would rather hear fallible varied personality traits explored and leave the bulk of any type of sexuality out of it. I was just using the gay companion as an example. I want more diversity. Nick and co are doing amazing jobs but there's almost no variation to the companions as it stands. "Very clever career women who are getting their lives together" can only go so far and it's getting really boring. I'm still getting this series as it sounds amazing. I know writers frequent here, so I have to beg. Please give us more variety in our companions. Give us another male companion in the mold of Hex and Rory. Or bring a rough and tumble UNIT soldier who thinks with his biceps and gets some emotional and intellectual development. Or bring another teacher into the TARDIS. Or give the Doctor a kid. Anything but the white female career woman from some point in the past where they wouldn't be able to get ahead.
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Post by omega on May 4, 2017 23:42:05 GMT
I agree with your wanting to mix things up when it comes to new companions. As for making a companion "gay" just to be different - no thanks! Why does gay have to be the modern day equivalent to being different? My intention is not to browbeat your comments, but it seems to me like a contrived solution (which nowadays in entertainment appears to be fashionable) in order to create ingenuity. I would rather hear fallible varied personality traits explored and leave the bulk of any type of sexuality out of it. I was just using the gay companion as an example. I want more diversity. Nick and co are doing amazing jobs but there's almost no variation to the companions as it stands. "Very clever career women who are getting their lives together" can only go so far and it's getting really boring. I'm still getting this series as it sounds amazing. I know writers frequent here, so I have to beg. Please give us more variety in our companions. Give us another male companion in the mold of Hex and Rory. Or bring a rough and tumble UNIT soldier who thinks with his biceps and gets some emotional and intellectual development. Or bring another teacher into the TARDIS. Or give the Doctor a kid. Anything but the white female career woman from some point in the past where they wouldn't be able to get ahead. With Helen I felt it took a couple of box sets for her to get a fully distinctive characterisation (Scenes from Her Life was where she became fully realised for me), rather than a second companion who joined the Eighth Doctor and Liv. Even then she never entirely took off for me, although where her character goes after the Doom Coalition set of stories may change my mind.
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Post by redsharkJason on May 4, 2017 23:58:37 GMT
I agree with your wanting to mix things up when it comes to new companions. As for making a companion "gay" just to be different - no thanks! Why does gay have to be the modern day equivalent to being different? My intention is not to browbeat your comments, but it seems to me like a contrived solution (which nowadays in entertainment appears to be fashionable) in order to create ingenuity. I would rather hear fallible varied personality traits explored and leave the bulk of any type of sexuality out of it. I was just using the gay companion as an example. I want more diversity. Nick and co are doing amazing jobs but there's almost no variation to the companions as it stands. "Very clever career women who are getting their lives together" can only go so far and it's getting really boring. I'm still getting this series as it sounds amazing. I know writers frequent here, so I have to beg. Please give us more variety in our companions. Give us another male companion in the mold of Hex and Rory. Or bring a rough and tumble UNIT soldier who thinks with his biceps and gets some emotional and intellectual development. Or bring another teacher into the TARDIS. Or give the Doctor a kid. Anything but the white female career woman from some point in the past where they wouldn't be able to get ahead. Don't mind me, I was just fleshing out your excellence.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 5, 2017 0:06:52 GMT
I think the other thing to consider with the selection of Jane Slavin as 4's new companion is Tom's comfort level and level of rapport with Jane Slavin.
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Post by redsharkJason on May 5, 2017 4:00:30 GMT
I think the other thing to consider with the selection of Jane Slavin as 4's new companion is Tom's comfort level and level of rapport with Jane Slavin. As others have pointed out it doesn't bold well for a DI Menzies return, but I'm perfectly comfortable with the selection of Jane Slavin as the new Fourth Doctor companion - she is lovely! It's very doubtful that anyone will ever read any Jane Slavin criticizing from me. I'm also in the camp where I would like to hear Matthew Waterhouse teamed up again with the Fourth Doctor. Assuming that Jane Slavin could possibly be the main companion for the next 2 series (8 + 9) of the Fourth Doctor Adventures, the only natural place in the meantime for an Adric and Tom Baker pairing would now be within a Main Range trilogy. However, it seems to be set in stone by the gods of Big Finish that a Fourth Doctor outing can't happen in the Main Range. A "lost story" involving them would hopefully be well received by the majority of us as well - just imagine... Nick Briggs during a recent podcast did say that Big Finish could "look at" the possibility of another Lost Story Range title if feasible. Has Matthew Waterhouse ever gone on record that he would be willing to work again with Tom Baker?
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Post by Ela on May 5, 2017 5:33:36 GMT
Well I didn't watch Classic Who during my youth. I imagine most of hatred for Adric came from younger viewers (especially male viewers) who may have been a bit jealous. And also I think kids are less forgiving of flaws in characters their own age. The hate for Adric reminds me a lot of the hate for Shinji Ikari from Evangelion. I did watch it when Adric was on the show - I hated the character because of the horrendous acting and the subpar writing of the character. Jealousy was certainly not a factor for me. I still find watching episodes with Adric painful, though I love the end of Earthshock when he is blow up.
As to his appearing with Tom - I wish I could remember where I saw it, but I do recall seeing something where it was stated that Tom couldn't stand working with Matthew during the short run they had on tv. Does anyone else remember seeing that? If so was that from an actual interview or am I remembering something from the rumour mill?
I remember it being talked about, but I don't know the source or whether it was just a rumor.
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Post by omega on May 5, 2017 6:07:02 GMT
I did watch it when Adric was on the show - I hated the character because of the horrendous acting and the subpar writing of the character. Jealousy was certainly not a factor for me. I still find watching episodes with Adric painful, though I love the end of Earthshock when he is blow up.
As to his appearing with Tom - I wish I could remember where I saw it, but I do recall seeing something where it was stated that Tom couldn't stand working with Matthew during the short run they had on tv. Does anyone else remember seeing that? If so was that from an actual interview or am I remembering something from the rumour mill?
I remember it being talked about, but I don't know the source or whether it was just a rumor. I think Matthew talks about it in an interview in DWM from possibly 2010(!). He sort of hero worshipped Tom, who told him to f**k off, and Matthew cited it as a never meet your heroes moment. It wasn't Tom's best time on the show, with Lalla (who he had what can accurately be described as a love hate relationship with at the time) leaving plus his declining health (he does look worse in that final season), and Matthew was a very young actor with not much experience under his belt. In hindsight, not the bet combination of personalities, but then Tom must not have been very easy to work with. I'd imagine he was getting close to being burned out after seven years in the role, and he turned down doing The Five Doctors as well. Matthew was also a huge fan of the show, having a letter published in whatever DWM was calling itself at the time.
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Post by Timelord007 on May 5, 2017 7:25:10 GMT
Excellent news, here Big Finish take my money.
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Post by dorney on May 5, 2017 8:03:05 GMT
I agree with your wanting to mix things up when it comes to new companions. As for making a companion "gay" just to be different - no thanks! Why does gay have to be the modern day equivalent to being different? My intention is not to browbeat your comments, but it seems to me like a contrived solution (which nowadays in entertainment appears to be fashionable) in order to create ingenuity. I would rather hear fallible varied personality traits explored and leave the bulk of any type of sexuality out of it. I was just using the gay companion as an example. I want more diversity. Nick and co are doing amazing jobs but there's almost no variation to the companions as it stands. "Very clever career women who are getting their lives together" can only go so far and it's getting really boring. I'm still getting this series as it sounds amazing. I know writers frequent here, so I have to beg. Please give us more variety in our companions. Give us another male companion in the mold of Hex and Rory. Or bring a rough and tumble UNIT soldier who thinks with his biceps and gets some emotional and intellectual development. Or bring another teacher into the TARDIS. Or give the Doctor a kid. Anything but the white female career woman from some point in the past where they wouldn't be able to get ahead. As one of those writers who frequent here, and one of the writers of this run, I'd probably suggest waiting to hear them before making any judgements about variety.
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Post by pawntake on May 5, 2017 8:03:56 GMT
.......we are all now part of the box set generation!!!! for good or bad. From my point of view its good!!! I much prefer Boxsets,and the new FDA story format(The next 2 Boxsets) I will definitely pre-order at some stage in the near future. Its a no-Brainer!!!!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 5, 2017 8:36:08 GMT
I was just using the gay companion as an example. I want more diversity. Nick and co are doing amazing jobs but there's almost no variation to the companions as it stands. "Very clever career women who are getting their lives together" can only go so far and it's getting really boring. I'm still getting this series as it sounds amazing. I know writers frequent here, so I have to beg. Please give us more variety in our companions. Give us another male companion in the mold of Hex and Rory. Or bring a rough and tumble UNIT soldier who thinks with his biceps and gets some emotional and intellectual development. Or bring another teacher into the TARDIS. Or give the Doctor a kid. Anything but the white female career woman from some point in the past where they wouldn't be able to get ahead. As one of those writers who frequent here, and one of the writers of this run, I'd probably suggest waiting to hear them before making any judgements about variety. Is there any chance we'll ever get a talking cabbage as the Fourth Doctor's companion?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 8:37:26 GMT
As one of those writers who frequent here, and one of the writers of this run, I'd probably suggest waiting to hear them before making any judgements about variety. Is there any chance we'll ever get a talking cabbage as the Fourth Doctor's companion? I think it would lack impact on audio.
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Post by bobod on May 5, 2017 8:41:50 GMT
RedsharkJason said:
Well they can just do another 4th Doctor Box Set without there being any actual lost stories. That's what they did (with the Fifth Doctor) when they first wanted to use Matthew but the Main Range was fully booked.
Any time he's asked he says he would. Perhaps most recently in his Myth Makers interview out this week from Reeltime. (plug plug)
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Post by bobod on May 5, 2017 8:46:03 GMT
Coffeeaddict said:
Tom speaks nicely of Adric and Matthew on the Tom Baker Years VHS recorded as far back as the 1990s.
I think, in general, Tom feels less connected to / nostalgic towards his final season than he does to the previous years. So he may be less keen to revisit those things specific to it. I dunno.
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Post by dorney on May 5, 2017 8:52:24 GMT
As one of those writers who frequent here, and one of the writers of this run, I'd probably suggest waiting to hear them before making any judgements about variety. Is there any chance we'll ever get a talking cabbage as the Fourth Doctor's companion? I've heard rumours Baker's End may be covering this.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 5, 2017 9:01:09 GMT
Is there any chance we'll ever get a talking cabbage as the Fourth Doctor's companion? I've heard rumours Baker's End may be covering this. I wonder if they might have already done it? www.bafflegab.co.uk/detail-baker.asp?id=3
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Post by OneTen on May 5, 2017 9:18:52 GMT
Is there any chance we'll ever get a talking cabbage as the Fourth Doctor's companion? I think it would lack impact on audio. I don't know - it would have one significant advantage for audio work over a regular mute cabbage.
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Post by barnabaslives on May 5, 2017 9:53:15 GMT
I think I have plenty of reasons to trust Big Finish on this one, and a number of them have already been stated by others.
I certainly wouldn't mind maybe a boxset with the Fourth Doctor and Adric and/or Nyssa though. Maybe something rather along the lines of the Fifth Doctor boxset?
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