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Post by Tim Bradley on Oct 8, 2015 14:20:29 GMT
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Post by Tim Bradley on Dec 17, 2015 12:22:28 GMT
Hello everyone!  I've now updated my Tenth Doctor's timeline with more stories from the annuals; storybooks; comics; etc. I've also added a temporary placement for the three new Tenth Doctor adventures from Big Finish to be released in May 2016. Enjoy! Tim. |
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Post by omega on Dec 17, 2015 22:13:42 GMT
It's a shame there aren't more stories with Donna. Four novels and two DWM comic strips (one being a farewell story, and a very beautiful one at that), shameful. Thank goodness Big Finish are here to save the day. Wizard!
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Post by Tim Bradley on Jan 26, 2016 7:54:42 GMT
Hello everyone! I've added 'Hounded' from 'The Churchill Years' to the Tenth Doctor's timeline. Tim. |
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Post by Tim Bradley on Feb 19, 2016 15:09:29 GMT
Hello everyone! I've now updated the Tenth Doctor's timeline thread by having it as a page view instead of a PDF view for users to see. Enjoy! Tim. |
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Post by Digi on Feb 20, 2016 0:10:20 GMT
Question...what's your reasoning for the placement of the still-unreleased BF Tenth Doctor stories? Do you know something I don't?  |
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Post by Tim Bradley on Feb 20, 2016 0:25:15 GMT
Question...what's your reasoning for the placement of the still-unreleased BF Tenth Doctor stories? Do you know something I don't? They're a temporary placement in the timeline for now. I'm assuming they take place between 'The Unicorn and the Wasp' and 'Silence of the Library' at the moment, but until they're released they'll get re-shifted according to their correct placement by BF. These timelines are in a state of flux anyway. Tim. |
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Post by Digi on Feb 20, 2016 0:34:14 GMT
Got it. And yes, always in flux |
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Post by omega on May 17, 2016 2:59:12 GMT
My guesses for the new audios:
Technophobia: Between The Doctor's Daughter and Silence in the Library. Definitely before Time Reaver.
Time Reaver: Confirmed by the author to be before Silence in the Library.
Death and the Queen: Between Forest of the Dead and Turn Left.
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Post by Digi on May 17, 2016 3:03:59 GMT
My guesses for the new audios: Technophobia: Between The Doctor's Daughter and Silence in the Library. That's my guess as well. Bit of a crapshoot as to whether it precedes or follows Unicorn and the Wasp, but I stuck it after just because it seems to follow in the fun tone of Unicorn/Wasp, rather than the broodiness of having just lost his 'daughter.' Time Reaver: Confirmed by the author to be before Silence in the Library. I love it when the writer confirms their intent. Makes this all so much easier  Death and the Queen: Between Forest of the Dead and Turn Left. I haven't listened to this one yet--is there a reasoning for this? Something in the dialogue? |
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Post by omega on May 17, 2016 3:21:06 GMT
My guesses for the new audios: Technophobia: Between The Doctor's Daughter and Silence in the Library. That's my guess as well. Bit of a crapshoot as to whether it precedes or follows Unicorn and the Wasp, but I stuck it after just because it seems to follow in the fun tone of Unicorn/Wasp, rather than the broodiness of having just lost his 'daughter.' I kind of stick if before UatW because Time Reaver seems to embody the romp aspect more. Maybe Donna spilled her tea reading a Christie and knew where the wardrobe was because she got her UatW outfit from there. Technophobia would fit with the Sontaran two-parter in that they both provide social commentary on current technologies and our addiction to them. I only stick that after Doctor's Daughter because The Poison Sky leads directly into that TV story. Time Reaver: Confirmed by the author to be before Silence in the Library. I love it when the writer confirms their intent. Makes this all so much easier Jenny T Colgan's novel In the Blood apparently takes place directly after Forest of the Dead. Death and the Queen: Between Forest of the Dead and Turn Left. I haven't listened to this one yet--is there a reasoning for this? Something in the dialogue? The main reason is it that in terms of release it comes after Time Reaver. Another reason is what I said regarding Jenny T Colgan's novel and between Midnight and Turn Left is the last narrative gap for series 4 to insert new stories in. I've expanded more on why I stuck it here in the discussion thread for the release, but the gist is that Death and the Queen highlights Donna's character growth in how she handles the situation she's in. Comparing Donna from Runaway Bride to this Donna, she's a very different person. It's so much easier to play this game when there are clues in the narrative to help place the story. It gets harder when there are no clues whatsoever. The Locum Doctors trilogy is particularly bad for this, as for the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Doctor it could conceivably take place at anytime in their timelines because of the nature of the stories, even when they were travelling with other companions. |
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Post by Tim Bradley on May 17, 2016 5:49:04 GMT
Hello everyone! Thanks to jbmasta and Digi for their suggestions. I've now added 'In The Blood' (Book/Audio) to the timeline. More or less what I suggested about the three new audios' placement in the Tenth Doctor's timeline was about right. However, I would like to keep the three audios as one set and place them between 'The Unicorn and the Wasp' and 'Silence of the Library'. I will be listening to these three new audios soon when I get my box set collection in the post. If the suggestions made change my mind about where I think the audios should go, then I'll change them accordingly. But it seems that I was more or less right about the three stories' placement in the timeline. Thanks. Tim. |
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Post by smith11 on May 19, 2016 15:23:35 GMT
In the latest DWM, Colgan states In The Blood comes directly after Midnight
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Post by Tim Bradley on May 19, 2016 20:58:57 GMT
In the latest DWM, Colgan states In The Blood comes directly after Midnight Thanks Mr Smith. Greatly appreciate this. Tim. |
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Post by liam on Sept 16, 2016 21:19:57 GMT
Hello, I was just wondering why you have Josie from Titan comics in the Eighth Doctor's timeline but not Gabby & Cindy with Ten or Alice, John Jones and ARC with Eleven?!!
The only reason I ask is I love the comics and I think they slot into the timelines perfectly. For me they are canon.
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Post by Tim Bradley on Sept 17, 2016 22:53:25 GMT
Hello, I was just wondering why you have Josie from Titan comics in the Eighth Doctor's timeline but not Gabby & Cindy with Ten or Alice, John Jones and ARC with Eleven?!! The only reason I ask is I love the comics and I think they slot into the timelines perfectly. For me they are canon. Hello. I've now added the comic book adventures from Titan to the Tenth and Eleventh Doctor's timelines. I don't really follow the comic book adventures of 'Doctor Who', so I welcome any suggestions to add to these timelines. I can't follow every story in 'Doctor Who' in every medium such as comics as I'm still catching up on a lot of things. Thanks for your suggestion. Really appreciate it. Tim. |
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Post by ollychops on Nov 24, 2017 23:48:12 GMT
Finished the new 10DAs, like the Donna ones, there's no definite placements for them so I suppose it's more down to personal placements, but it's mentioned in the extras that they wrote them with the view of being set between Tooth & Claw and School Reunion. This works fine for The Sword of the Chevalier and Cold Vengeance, but for Infamy of the Zaross... {Spoiler}
Rose makes a reference to the Cybermen. It could be possible that Ten has mentioned them to her, but the way she says the line makes it sound like she's met them already, so Infamy must be set at some point post-Rise of the Cybermen/Army of Steel. |
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Post by mark687 on Nov 24, 2017 23:56:42 GMT
Finished the new 10DAs, like the Donna ones, there's no definite placements for them so I suppose it's more down to personal placements, but it's mentioned in the extras that they wrote them with the view of being set between Tooth & Claw and School Reunion. This works fine for The Sword of the Chevalier and Cold Vengeance, but for Infamy of the Zaross... {Spoiler}
Rose makes a reference to the Cybermen. It could be possible that Ten has mentioned them to her, but the way she says the line makes it sound like she's met them already, so Infamy must be set at some point post-Rise of the Cybermen/Army of Steel. Personally I'm putting them between
Idoit's Lantern and Impossible Planet
Regards
mark687
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Nov 25, 2017 10:21:56 GMT
Finished the new 10DAs, like the Donna ones, there's no definite placements for them so I suppose it's more down to personal placements, but it's mentioned in the extras that they wrote them with the view of being set between Tooth & Claw and School Reunion. This works fine for The Sword of the Chevalier and Cold Vengeance, but for Infamy of the Zaross... {Spoiler}
Rose makes a reference to the Cybermen. It could be possible that Ten has mentioned them to her, but the way she says the line makes it sound like she's met them already, so Infamy must be set at some point post-Rise of the Cybermen/Army of Steel. Personally I'm putting them between
Idoit's Lantern and Impossible Planet
Regards
mark687
EDIT: Also, having read the old comments about the placement in the Timeline for the first volume of 10DAs, I always thought it went like this; Technophobia - Between Forest of the Dead and Midnight, because Donna tells the Doctor that she “won’t peek” when talking about books and other things regarding 2011 as it’s her personal future, to me this was a direct follow up of their conversation in the Library. Time Reaver - Directly before Silence in the Library as the Doctor says he wants to visit a Library next at the end of that story and on the cover Donna’s wearing her costume from that episode even though she’s dressed as a Wench until the very end. And obviously because the writer actually confirmed it being set there. Death and the Queen - A more difficult one to place as it could really go anywhere after the Doctor’s Daughter but I always felt like it was set after Forest of the Dead because the topic of Donn’s bad luck with romance was so prominent yet we’d only witnessed her with Lance until Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead. Yeah, I’d probably agree with them going between Idiot’s Lantern and Impossible Planet. {Spoiler}
Obviously in Infamy Of the Zaross there’s a mention of the Cybermen, but we know Rose doesn’t formally meet them until Rise of the Cybermen whereas she’s first told about them in Dalek. I don’t think she would have name dropped them like that if she hadn’t met them yet.
And then in Sword of the Chevalier she says quite bluntly that Satan isn’t real, implying it’s set before Impossible Planet.
I don’t think you can place Cold Vengeance from any lines in the story though.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Mar 13, 2020 13:04:17 GMT
Technophobia
There is a reference to Donna not peeking ahead at future history that feels most organic after their exchange about that in Silence in the Library, but comparing the two scenes there’s nothing to say it has to go one way or the other so this could easily go pre-Library as well.
Time Reaver
Authorial intent places this immediately before Silence in the Library, but Jenny T Colgan has a habit of making placements without checking the appropriate continuity so it doesn’t work immediately before. It still has to go at some point before though as they wouldn’t be so blasé about visiting a Library afterwards.
Death and the Queen
Basically based on Donna’s characterisation in post-Library stories, specifically in relation to her reaction to the loss of Lee, this makes absolutely no sense after the visit to the Library and should come before that.
Donna Noble: Kidnapped! (The Doctor appears in The Chiswick Cuckoos)
Immediately after Forest of the Dead. A few weeks pass over the course of the set but the impression I got is that the Doctor and Donna came straight from the Library. Sylvia hasn’t seen Donna for weeks and Wilf is away in Brighton with the Silver Cloak.
In The Blood
Much like in Donna Noble Kidnapped, Donna is still recovering from the loss of Lee and decides a visit home will help. She seems much less upset about it here than she was in Kidnapped. Funny thing is, Sylvia doesn’t appear in this but Wilf does, another contrast to the BF Boxset. And of course Gully appears, so it’s a sequel to Time Reaver. Jenny T Colgan said it was set right after Midnight, but that doesn’t work because in The Stolen Earth, Wilf says that the last contact he had with Donna was when she was on a planet called Midnight. The Doctor and Wilf begin to develop a friendship in this one, they don’t seem to have interacted much before this and Wilf thanks the Doctor for keeping Donna mostly happy.
Beautiful Chaos
This doesn’t really fit too well with the audio continuity to be honest. Sylvia doesn’t know that Donna travels in Space and Time yet, she just thinks that she’s travelling the world with the Doctor. Wilf on the other hand knows from the start. Again in this one the Doctor and Wilf are developing a friendship. It’s after the Library as talking skeletons and women saying spoilers are mentioned.
Wild Pastures
The Doctor is travelling with Donna (she appears briefly at the beginning). The Doctor intends to take Wilf to the care home instead of Sylvia and the Doctor seems to have a fairly strong relationship with Wilf by this point. Sylvia references The Poison Sky. As Donna visits home this has to come between The Doctor's Daughter and Midnight anyway.
No Place
The Doctor and Wilf are very chummy, so it should probably go after In the Blood.
One Mile Down / The Creeping Death
I actually think these two could go virtually anywhere, but why not keep them grouped with No Place.
Hounded
Uses the Series 4 theme, so any solo gap after Voyage of the Damned.
Death in the New Forest
The Doctor visits a post-Gridlock New Earth, so the earliest it can go is between Voyage of the Damned and Partners in Crime. If not, then between Journey's End and The End of Time. At the end, the Doctor decides to keep an eye on New Earth and investigate the Lux.
The Skies of New Earth
The Doctor is investigating the Lux as he promised in Death in the New Forest. Once the Lux are defeated, the Doctor leaves New Earth felling Devon Pryce that Hame can call him if they ever need his help again.
Zero Space
Between Journey's End and The End of Time.
Collision Course
Could probably go anywhere tbh as all the Doctors were pulled from random points in their timelines but safest bet is during the Specials.
The Cats of New Cairo
Hame summons the Doctor back to New Earth after the Lux return. This can go basically anywhere the Doctor is alone and after The Skies of New Earth.
Last Chance
The Doctor is on his last holiday, so it’s after The Waters of Mars. He also tells Christina that he’s been avoiding something which he really needs to get to so this is presumably shortly before The End of Time.
Titan Comics
Any Comic with both Gabby and Cindy outside of the regular run (like The Lost Dimension or Ghost Ship), has to come between Sharper Than a Serpents Tooth and Vortex Butterflies as that’s the only gap there is.
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