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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:22:52 GMT
Free reign and see what turns up. I've yet to meet a Parkin story I disliked. That's certainly a thought! We'd have to find all of them first though. It's only by the good graces of a friend that I have The Dying Days at all. I can very safely say that anything by Terrance Dicks, Andy Lane or Gareth Roberts would have made it for televised Who. Venusian Lullaby leaps immediately to mind as something that would have been amazing in 1965, but likely The Web Planet of productions. Empire of Glass is a bit of an oddity because reading it feels a bit half-and-half, a First Doctor story with Third Doctor sensibilities. It's a really interesting mismash. Killing Ground is archetypal late Sawardian era Who, it's got all the necessary tropes from the grim atmosphere to the sidelined Doctor. Time of Your Life feels more like a Philip Martin pastiche and I think might work pretty well as a comic story. Actually, I managed to track down Panini omnibuses of the Peri/Frobisher stories I needed to look at and everything from War-Game onwards could easily have been on television in 1986/87. I almost get a Robin of Sherwood vibe from some of the tales. Well i do have most of the hard to find ones. With Dying Days, it could go comic or audio. If you wanted to keep the Brig stuff then comic, but if you replaced The Brig with Kate then do it as audio. So Vile a Sin i wish they'd have done as an audio as i think it it would have been a cool bookend for Original Sin, but may also require a couple of other ones from that companion group to be done Ooh, possibly... I dunno, I'm not sure. I would've thought that Damaged Goods was pretty important to the retrofitted Psi Powers arc, but that was made wholly independent. I think they could probably do So Vile a Sin now if they wished as a special release, but that'd preclude changes in a number of other adaptations that came before it. Anything by Kate Orman just seems to scream audio adaptation for me. I don't know what it is about her style, but it strikes me as something that could very easily make the jump to audio. Jim Mortimore's stuff could definitely make the transfer over into something like a graphic novel, Parasite, Lucifer Rising and Blood Heat are all very visual stories. Falls the Shadow would make a terrifying audio drama, although its content is probably of a BF era that has since passed ( Project: Twilight and the like). Nightshade strikes me as something that would have been wonderful irrespective of the medium, there was even an experimental album by a group called Cybertech that featured the Nightshade theme (with an advisory warning by Mark Gatiss) and a track called "Trevithick's Monsters". I don't know what Birthright would feel best as outside of a book... Scratch that, from what I've heard of it, I have no idea what Christmas on a Rational Planet would look like as an adaptation...
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 17, 2017 11:50:39 GMT
Well i do have most of the hard to find ones. With Dying Days, it could go comic or audio. If you wanted to keep the Brig stuff then comic, but if you replaced The Brig with Kate then do it as audio. So Vile a Sin i wish they'd have done as an audio as i think it it would have been a cool bookend for Original Sin, but may also require a couple of other ones from that companion group to be done Ooh, possibly... I dunno, I'm not sure. I would've thought that Damaged Goods was pretty important to the retrofitted Psi Powers arc, but that was made wholly independent. I think they could probably do So Vile a Sin now if they wished as a special release, but that'd preclude changes in a number of other adaptations that came before it. Anything by Kate Orman just seems to scream audio adaptation for me. I don't know what it is about her style, but it strikes me as something that could very easily make the jump to audio. Jim Mortimore's stuff could definitely make the transfer over into something like a graphic novel, Parasite, Lucifer Rising and Blood Heat are all very visual stories. Falls the Shadow would make a terrifying audio drama, although its content is probably of a BF era that has since passed ( Project: Twilight and the like). Nightshade strikes me as something that would have been wonderful irrespective of the medium, there was even an experimental album by a group called Cybertech that featured the Nightshade theme (with an advisory warning by Mark Gatiss) and a track called "Trevithick's Monsters". I don't know what Birthright would feel best as outside of a book... Scratch that, from what I've heard of it, I have no idea what Christmas on a Rational Planet would look like as an adaptation... Well in regards to Birthright I'd say not to adapt it again like Just War. for me the Benny solo versions are the prime continuity versions of it. Stories like Falls the Shadow and White Darkness, because as you've said its not of an era anymore could only work in the NA audio range, especially when you consider how dark Damaged Goods still was in places. Well with So Vile a Sin, you could have a couple of the other Psi Powers arc books adapted and mention that the Brotherhood found some documents in the Torchwood archive, which lead them to do what they did, re-retrofitting them lol.
I think stories that feature characters played by actors sadly passed who play prominent roles should go as comic adapts like; Twilight of the Gods and Dark Path
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 12:28:15 GMT
Ooh, possibly... I dunno, I'm not sure. I would've thought that Damaged Goods was pretty important to the retrofitted Psi Powers arc, but that was made wholly independent. I think they could probably do So Vile a Sin now if they wished as a special release, but that'd preclude changes in a number of other adaptations that came before it. Anything by Kate Orman just seems to scream audio adaptation for me. I don't know what it is about her style, but it strikes me as something that could very easily make the jump to audio. Jim Mortimore's stuff could definitely make the transfer over into something like a graphic novel, Parasite, Lucifer Rising and Blood Heat are all very visual stories. Falls the Shadow would make a terrifying audio drama, although its content is probably of a BF era that has since passed ( Project: Twilight and the like). Nightshade strikes me as something that would have been wonderful irrespective of the medium, there was even an experimental album by a group called Cybertech that featured the Nightshade theme (with an advisory warning by Mark Gatiss) and a track called "Trevithick's Monsters". I don't know what Birthright would feel best as outside of a book... Scratch that, from what I've heard of it, I have no idea what Christmas on a Rational Planet would look like as an adaptation... Well in regards to Birthright I'd say not to adapt it again like Just War. for me the Benny solo versions are the prime continuity versions of it. Stories like Falls the Shadow and White Darkness, because as you've said its not of an era anymore could only work in the NA audio range, especially when you consider how dark Damaged Goods still was in places. Well with So Vile a Sin, you could have a couple of the other Psi Powers arc books adapted and mention that the Brotherhood found some documents in the Torchwood archive, which lead them to do what they did, re-retrofitting them lol.
I think stories that feature characters played by actors sadly passed who play prominent roles should go as comic adapts like; Twilight of the Gods and Dark Path
Well, they are now thanks to Braxiatel ("Brax!" *shakes fist*). I cannot see an adaptation of Eternity Weeps that wouldn't lead to a massive rewrite. It's just so fundamentally bleak and almost a prototype solo Benny story. The Brotherhood of Psi could be a little bit like Unitatus, I suppose. Growing out of various organisations until it amalgamated into a single religious order. Maybe Torchwood was a predecessor? Actually, that would be rather interesting to see... All these seemingly unrelated organisations slowly buckling and warping together over the course of history into the Brotherhood. I'd really want to see Sanctuary and Human Nature as audio stories if only to see Sylvester McCoy and Lisa Bowerman perform them. It's a tragedy that Mary Tamm passed away before The Shadows of Weng-Chiang could be done, it's like Leslie Charteris meets The Killer. Twilight of the Gods definitely lends itself towards a comic, although it's been ages since I read it and I don't think I ever got a readable version of The Dark Path. The Scales of Injustice might fall under that purview too, it rings truer to Terror of the Autons than it does Inferno and there are a number of scenes in it like a minisub flooding with water that lends quite well to the medium. Actually, if NuWho wanted to be adventuresome, they could do far worse than a Vortis story with CGI from The Mill or Peladon.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 17, 2017 15:09:16 GMT
Well in regards to Birthright I'd say not to adapt it again like Just War. for me the Benny solo versions are the prime continuity versions of it. Stories like Falls the Shadow and White Darkness, because as you've said its not of an era anymore could only work in the NA audio range, especially when you consider how dark Damaged Goods still was in places. Well with So Vile a Sin, you could have a couple of the other Psi Powers arc books adapted and mention that the Brotherhood found some documents in the Torchwood archive, which lead them to do what they did, re-retrofitting them lol.
I think stories that feature characters played by actors sadly passed who play prominent roles should go as comic adapts like; Twilight of the Gods and Dark Path
Well, they are now thanks to Braxiatel ("Brax!" *shakes fist*). I cannot see an adaptation of Eternity Weeps that wouldn't lead to a massive rewrite. It's just so fundamentally bleak and almost a prototype solo Benny story. The Brotherhood of Psi could be a little bit like Unitatus, I suppose. Growing out of various organisations until it amalgamated into a single religious order. Maybe Torchwood was a predecessor? Actually, that would be rather interesting to see... All these seemingly unrelated organisations slowly buckling and warping together over the course of history into the Brotherhood. I'd really want to see Sanctuary and Human Nature as audio stories if only to see Sylvester McCoy and Lisa Bowerman perform them. It's a tragedy that Mary Tamm passed away before The Shadows of Weng-Chiang could be done, it's like Leslie Charteris meets The Killer. Twilight of the Gods definitely lends itself towards a comic, although it's been ages since I read it and I don't think I ever got a readable version of The Dark Path. The Scales of Injustice might fall under that purview too, it rings truer to Terror of the Autons than it does Inferno and there are a number of scenes in it like a minisub flooding with water that lends quite well to the medium. Actually, if NuWho wanted to be adventuresome, they could do far worse than a Vortis story with CGI from The Mill or Peladon. There are so many different ways to do things. Damn you Doctor Who for being so Loveably complicated at times. Thats right i forgot that Brax was involved in supossedly changing Benny's timeline a bit. Maybe when he was falling through universes he saw the VNA versions of those events and needed them to come to pass so pushed Benny and Jason to them hehe
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 2:02:21 GMT
Well, they are now thanks to Braxiatel ("Brax!" *shakes fist*). I cannot see an adaptation of Eternity Weeps that wouldn't lead to a massive rewrite. It's just so fundamentally bleak and almost a prototype solo Benny story. The Brotherhood of Psi could be a little bit like Unitatus, I suppose. Growing out of various organisations until it amalgamated into a single religious order. Maybe Torchwood was a predecessor? Actually, that would be rather interesting to see... All these seemingly unrelated organisations slowly buckling and warping together over the course of history into the Brotherhood. I'd really want to see Sanctuary and Human Nature as audio stories if only to see Sylvester McCoy and Lisa Bowerman perform them. It's a tragedy that Mary Tamm passed away before The Shadows of Weng-Chiang could be done, it's like Leslie Charteris meets The Killer. Twilight of the Gods definitely lends itself towards a comic, although it's been ages since I read it and I don't think I ever got a readable version of The Dark Path. The Scales of Injustice might fall under that purview too, it rings truer to Terror of the Autons than it does Inferno and there are a number of scenes in it like a minisub flooding with water that lends quite well to the medium. Actually, if NuWho wanted to be adventuresome, they could do far worse than a Vortis story with CGI from The Mill or Peladon. There are so many different ways to do things. Damn you Doctor Who for being so Loveably complicated at times. Thats right i forgot that Brax was involved in supossedly changing Benny's timeline a bit. Maybe when he was falling through universes he saw the VNA versions of those events and needed them to come to pass so pushed Benny and Jason to them hehe That definitely sounds like Brax. This is a man who made schemes with himself at an earlier point in his own personal timestream on Gallifrey from the Collection and vice versa. If I remember correctly, Benny outright accuses him of trying to out-convolute the Doctor.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 18, 2017 11:39:00 GMT
There are so many different ways to do things. Damn you Doctor Who for being so Loveably complicated at times. Thats right i forgot that Brax was involved in supossedly changing Benny's timeline a bit. Maybe when he was falling through universes he saw the VNA versions of those events and needed them to come to pass so pushed Benny and Jason to them hehe That definitely sounds like Brax. This is a man who made schemes with himself at an earlier point in his own personal timestream on Gallifrey from the Collection and vice versa. If I remember correctly, Benny outright accuses him of trying to out-convolute the Doctor. Well for a Timelord who's timeline is so convoluted its no surprise lol. Its a good way to see it especially in regards to the Multiverse theory.
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Post by omega on Aug 18, 2017 11:44:07 GMT
Looking at the 7, Benny, Chris and Roz books, Original Sin was the only one they could have adapted I think, bar Love and War, but they did that for Benny solo anyway. But other sporadic stories could have been great for adaptation from around and then making other gaps here and there for new stories in the MR Happy Endings would definitely have been impossible, I suspect that had they gotten that far Return of the Living Dad would have likely served as Benny's departure instead. The period just after that with Seven/Chris/Roz suffers a bit from essentially being standalone stories that feature the TARDIS crew rather than the other way around. If there were any period that could really benefit from some new additions, I think it'd be that. A quarter of the guest cast would blow the whole budget. The only way it could be done was if all the actors gave their time for free, and then there would be the logistical nightmare, or having actors quadrupling up on roles.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 18, 2017 11:49:34 GMT
Happy Endings would definitely have been impossible, I suspect that had they gotten that far Return of the Living Dad would have likely served as Benny's departure instead. The period just after that with Seven/Chris/Roz suffers a bit from essentially being standalone stories that feature the TARDIS crew rather than the other way around. If there were any period that could really benefit from some new additions, I think it'd be that. A quarter of the guest cast would blow the whole budget. The only way it could be done was if all the actors gave their time for free, and then there would be the logistical nightmare, or having actors quadrupling up on roles. That's why it would have to be severely edited for audio or a comic run for it. That's if Happy Endings was done of course, but as wolfie says, it would have been impossible
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 12:01:58 GMT
A quarter of the guest cast would blow the whole budget. The only way it could be done was if all the actors gave their time for free, and then there would be the logistical nightmare, or having actors quadrupling up on roles. That's why it would have to be severely edited for audio or a comic run for it. That's if Happy Endings was done of course, but as wolfie says, it would have been impossible Yeah, it's mindbogglingly complicated. You've got Romana and the Time Lords playing a significant part, Ice Warriors and UNIT soldiers having a bar brawl, dear old Alistair coping with what he thinks is dementia, the Doctor confounding Sherlock Holmes, Ace sleeping with the groom before the wedding, the surviving Travellers from Heaven, Muldwych (who is probably Merlin) returning the Doctor's original TARDIS, the young girl with a connection to the Timewyrm and Time herself. I haven't even mentioned Lisa Deranne, Hamlet Macbeth, William Blake, Audrey McShane, Robin Yeadon, Brax, Yates, Benton and Doris. Phew. It's more of a celebratory romp than The Five Doctors was and that's saying something.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 18, 2017 12:07:38 GMT
That's why it would have to be severely edited for audio or a comic run for it. That's if Happy Endings was done of course, but as wolfie says, it would have been impossible Yeah, it's mindbogglingly complicated. You've got Romana and the Time Lords playing a significant part, Ice Warriors and UNIT soldiers having a bar brawl, dear old Alistair coping with what he thinks is dementia, the Doctor confounding Sherlock Holmes, Ace sleeping with the groom before the wedding, the surviving Travellers from Heaven, Muldwych (who is probably Merlin) returning the Doctor's original TARDIS, the young girl with a connection to the Timewyrm and Time herself. I haven't even mentioned Lisa Deranne, Hamlet Macbeth, William Blake, Audrey McShane, Robin Yeadon, Brax, Yates, Benton and Doris. Phew. It's more of a celebratory romp than The Five Doctors was and that's saying something. Why do I love the visual of a UNIT/Ice Warrior bar brawl lmao
Damn that is complicated. I say we stick with our Benny leaving in an adaptation of Return of the Living Dad idea. Does Jason feature in that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 4:08:35 GMT
Yeah, it's mindbogglingly complicated. You've got Romana and the Time Lords playing a significant part, Ice Warriors and UNIT soldiers having a bar brawl, dear old Alistair coping with what he thinks is dementia, the Doctor confounding Sherlock Holmes, Ace sleeping with the groom before the wedding, the surviving Travellers from Heaven, Muldwych (who is probably Merlin) returning the Doctor's original TARDIS, the young girl with a connection to the Timewyrm and Time herself. I haven't even mentioned Lisa Deranne, Hamlet Macbeth, William Blake, Audrey McShane, Robin Yeadon, Brax, Yates, Benton and Doris. Phew. It's more of a celebratory romp than The Five Doctors was and that's saying something. Why do I love the visual of a UNIT/Ice Warrior bar brawl lmao
Damn that is complicated. I say we stick with our Benny leaving in an adaptation of Return of the Living Dad idea. Does Jason feature in that?
I had to double-check the wikia several times to make sure I wasn't misremembering things. Yep, he tags along with Benny to find her father. I reckon it'd be easy to stick on the marriage vows from Happy Endings at the very beginning and then go more or less straight into what happens in Return of the Living Dad.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 19, 2017 13:13:56 GMT
Why do I love the visual of a UNIT/Ice Warrior bar brawl lmao
Damn that is complicated. I say we stick with our Benny leaving in an adaptation of Return of the Living Dad idea. Does Jason feature in that?
I had to double-check the wikia several times to make sure I wasn't misremembering things. Yep, he tags along with Benny to find her father. I reckon it'd be easy to stick on the marriage vows from Happy Endings at the very beginning and then go more or less straight into what happens in Return of the Living Dad. That works. End Death and Diplomacy with Benny saying they are going to get married. Start Return of the Living Dad with the ceremony and make a joke of the Doctor saying "Sorry we couldn't get everyone here", then go into the main story, but with Benny maybe getting a message of some sort
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 1:06:44 GMT
I had to double-check the wikia several times to make sure I wasn't misremembering things. Yep, he tags along with Benny to find her father. I reckon it'd be easy to stick on the marriage vows from Happy Endings at the very beginning and then go more or less straight into what happens in Return of the Living Dad. That works. End Death and Diplomacy with Benny saying they are going to get married. Start Return of the Living Dad with the ceremony and make a joke of the Doctor saying "Sorry we couldn't get everyone here", then go into the main story, but with Benny maybe getting a message of some sort Or maybe not even that, maybe: And you can do the entire cast with a stock crowd effect. Benny and Jason can be on their honeymoon when she's contacted. Perfect.
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Post by omega on Aug 20, 2017 1:26:27 GMT
I had to double-check the wikia several times to make sure I wasn't misremembering things. Yep, he tags along with Benny to find her father. I reckon it'd be easy to stick on the marriage vows from Happy Endings at the very beginning and then go more or less straight into what happens in Return of the Living Dad. That works. End Death and Diplomacy with Benny saying they are going to get married. Start Return of the Living Dad with the ceremony and make a joke of the Doctor saying "Sorry we couldn't get everyone here", then go into the main story, but with Benny maybe getting a message of some sort Or Benny convincing the Doctor to let her have a small wedding, reuniting her with Isaac (her father) being the Doctor's wedding present for Benny. She remarks he'd probably have a huge wedding with everyone they've met planned, but it's not for her. Plasticine should still perform at the reception. The cricket match would be a tricky scene to adapt for audio, and would make me fall asleep faster than an episode of The Dominators.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 21, 2017 11:57:04 GMT
and both of those ideas work perfectly
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